Originally posted by IceJaw
There were no set rules so all we can is to go by the scripts rather than assuming this is for example Snake from Metal gear for the nes or something 😬 this should also be written in the Games vs rules so that there are no missunderstandings and to make sure everyone is up to date 😬 so in other words, it would be better for everyone to follow the scripts.About Cortana, I was only pointing that out 😬
So you're saying Bowser has still got the Star rod? 😕 Nuh-uh, man, Mario beat him to a pulp and got the Star rod.
The curses dont have anything to do with what items, badges or special powers he's got 😬
From what we've seen Snake doesnt seem to stand a chance against even a MG Geko, but Raiden can take out like ten almost without a sweat 😬
SA could just Sonicboom the sh!t outta them both, without Mario 😬 there isnt actually much Snake can do against SA, and you know it.
SA has sheilds powered by energy tanks, it's not just an armour, she can take a whole lottta more damage than MC and Snake and her tech makes theirs' look like something a infant made 😬 I'm done
Originally posted by IceJaw
There were no set rules so all we can is to go by the scripts rather than assuming this is for example Snake from Metal gear for the nes or something 😬 this should also be written in the Games vs rules so that there are no missunderstandings and to make sure everyone is up to date 😬 so in other words, it would be better for everyone to follow the scripts.About Cortana, I was only pointing that out 😬
So you're saying Bowser has still got the Star rod? 😕 Nuh-uh, man, Mario beat him to a pulp and got the Star rod.
The curses dont have anything to do with what items, badges or special powers he's got 😬
From what we've seen Snake doesnt seem to stand a chance against even a MG Geko, but Raiden can take out like ten almost without a sweat 😬
SA could just Sonicboom the sh!t outta them both, without Mario 😬 there isnt actually much Snake can do against SA, and you know it.
SA has sheilds powered by energy tanks, it's not just an armour, she can take a whole lottta more damage than MC and Snake and her tech makes theirs' look like something a infant made 😬 I'm done
And when we are arguing, I simply take that these are the people in their primes, nothing else...
Mario was powered by the wishes of the people that wanted him to succeed. You don't see him with the star rod in the normal world now do you? Neither with those powers. It spesificlly says that the curse made Mario able to do new things, and it was the wishes of the peple that powered him. But as you said, Samus is the factor in this fight.
Raiden took those out because he has a HF blade, which can cut through them. Snake only had a normal gun because he disguised himself as one of the soldiers, thus he had no necessary weapon to take them down....
No, I've read abuot Samus in the Zero mission instruclet book, and played as her in the game. She only DASHES in supersonic speed, she doesn't move in it. She has to run for a while before boosting up, unlike MC who actually moves like that always. He will be up at her in NO TIME. Since we can do nothing but speculate in a VS fight, but we have facts to prove some of it up, I guess all we can do is tell how OUR outcome of the fight would be. This is how I see the outcome......
The fight starts, MC runs up to Samus in NO TIME. He slams her to the ground with his incredible strenght, and sits on her. His suit wears half a ton, so I doubt that even if Samus persisted she would be able to do a shit. Now MC puts his leg, from his knee and down, on Samus legs, making her unable to move. His other leg he puts at her arm, and the other arm holds down her energy canon. Now with his free hand he uses the plasma sword and holds it against her throat until the energy field is down and Samus gets beheaded....
Snake shoots Mario easily when being invisible, then he proceeds to help MC by holding down Samus....
Since there is no agreement here, this is how I predict the fight. Feel free to do the same...
Your assuming Samus doesnt doge him, fire a weapone to stop him, activate speed booster/ screw attack or go into morph ball form. How do you know that she cant lift him up, she is super humen too. If he does sit on her she can go in morph ball mode and lay a power bomb, activate the screw attack or activate hyper-mode in which she is invinceble. She could also call in her ship and have it land on him.
Originally posted by kamikzStill talking about Paper Mario 2, are you? 😬 We've already proven that SA > MC 😬 but you werent there debating in the SA vs MC thread, even the MC fanboys thought the matchup wasnt fair 😬 Sitting on SA wouldnt be very smart and she has gotten waaay heavier thing on her, an Omega Pirate (has to weight about 10 times as much as MC 😬 so she'd most likely get him of her as easy as dell) and probably even more things. Why? You ask? Cuz she's her morph ball capability and with it she could just incenerate every living particle on MC and Snake with her Power bomb which has big frickin' blast radius. And we were to think these characters were in their prime then SA would be in hyper mode, then she'd overkill everything 😬 would that be nice? No, that's why we should go after the scripts 😬 Snake having enough upper body strenght to hold down SA? 🤨 Drugs arent good, mkay? And the way you see this fight is just sick, SA nad Mario CAN move and do stuff 😬 No more drugs for you, man barker
And when we are arguing, I simply take that these are the people in their primes, nothing else...Mario was powered by the wishes of the people that wanted him to succeed. You don't see him with the star rod in the normal world now do you? Neither with those powers. It spesificlly says that the curse made Mario able to do new things, and it was the wishes of the peple that powered him. But as you said, Samus is the factor in this fight.
Raiden took those out because he has a HF blade, which can cut through them. Snake only had a normal gun because he disguised himself as one of the soldiers, thus he had no necessary weapon to take them down....
No, I've read abuot Samus in the Zero mission instruclet book, and played as her in the game. She only DASHES in supersonic speed, she doesn't move in it. She has to run for a while before boosting up, unlike MC who actually moves like that always. He will be up at her in NO TIME. Since we can do nothing but speculate in a VS fight, but we have facts to prove some of it up, I guess all we can do is tell how OUR outcome of the fight would be. This is how I see the outcome......
The fight starts, MC runs up to Samus in NO TIME. He slams her to the ground with his incredible strenght, and sits on her. His suit wears half a ton, so I doubt that even if Samus persisted she would be able to do a shit. Now MC puts his leg, from his knee and down, on Samus legs, making her unable to move. His other leg he puts at her arm, and the other arm holds down her energy canon. Now with his free hand he uses the plasma sword and holds it against her throat until the energy field is down and Samus gets beheaded....
Snake shoots Mario easily when being invisible, then he proceeds to help MC by holding down Samus....
Since there is no agreement here, this is how I predict the fight. Feel free to do the same...
Originally posted by nyc48Since we should go by the script (I know I am) she'd go into her new Phazon hyper mode and OVERKILL both of em
Your assuming Samus doesnt doge him, fire a weapone to stop him, activate speed booster/ screw attack or go into morph ball form. How do you know that she cant lift him up, she is super humen too. If he does sit on her she can go in morph ball mode and lay a power bomb, activate the screw attack or activate hyper-mode in which she is invinceble. She could also call in her ship and have it land on him.
PS : You dont even have proof saying the Plasma sword can cut through SA's shield (which is faaaaaaaaaaaar from the same shield as MC's ) and suit (a suit which is like very frickin' old but still is much high tech compared to MC's suit and Snake's weapons from the metal age😬 )
Originally posted by nyc48Yeah Thats True and MC cant do Sh!t about it.
Your assuming Samus doesnt doge him, fire a weapone to stop him, activate speed booster/ screw attack or go into morph ball form. How do you know that she cant lift him up, she is super humen too. If he does sit on her she can go in morph ball mode and lay a power bomb, activate the screw attack or activate hyper-mode in which she is invinceble. She could also call in her ship and have it land on him.
Originally posted by IceJawOMG thats More than i would Write to Prov him wrong, but im to lazy and i have already Proven Much In the SA vs MC thread.
Still talking about Paper Mario 2, are you? 😬 We've already proven that SA > MC 😬 but you werent there debating in the SA vs MC thread, even the MC fanboys thought the matchup wasnt fair 😬 Sitting on SA wouldnt be very smart and she has gotten waaay heavier thing on her, an Omega Pirate (has to weight about 10 times as much as MC 😬 so she'd most likely get him of her as easy as dell) and probably even more things. Why? You ask? Cuz she's her morph ball capability and with it she could just incenerate every living particle on MC and Snake with her Power bomb which has big frickin' blast radius. And we were to think these characters were in their prime then SA would be in hyper mode, then she'd overkill everything 😬 would that be nice? No, that's why we should go after the scripts 😬 Snake having enough upper body strenght to hold down SA? 🤨 Drugs arent good, mkay? And the way you see this fight is just sick, SA nad Mario CAN move and do stuff 😬 No more drugs for you, man barker
Since we should go by the script (I know I am) she'd go into her new Phazon hyper mode and OVERKILL both of em 😄
And When Mario and Snake is gone this is the same as Sa vs MC thred so this can more likly be closed.
Originally posted by IceJaw
Still talking about Paper Mario 2, are you? 😬 We've already proven that SA > MC 😬 but you werent there debating in the SA vs MC thread, even the MC fanboys thought the matchup wasnt fair 😬 Sitting on SA wouldnt be very smart and she has gotten waaay heavier thing on her, an Omega Pirate (has to weight about 10 times as much as MC 😬 so she'd most likely get him of her as easy as dell) and probably even more things. Why? You ask? Cuz she's her morph ball capability and with it she could just incenerate every living particle on MC and Snake with her Power bomb which has big frickin' blast radius. And we were to think these characters were in their prime then SA would be in hyper mode, then she'd overkill everything 😬 would that be nice? No, that's why we should go after the scripts 😬 Snake having enough upper body strenght to hold down SA? 🤨 Drugs arent good, mkay? And the way you see this fight is just sick, SA nad Mario CAN move and do stuff 😬 No more drugs for you, man barker
Since we should go by the script (I know I am) she'd go into her new Phazon hyper mode and OVERKILL both of emPS : You dont even have proof saying the Plasma sword can cut through SA's shield (which is faaaaaaaaaaaar from the same shield as MC's ) and suit (a suit which is like very frickin' old but still is much high tech compared to MC's suit and Snake's weapons from the metal age😬 )
Dude, it's just a ****ing debate, don't say I'm taking drugs because of it and other shit. GOD!!!!
Um..you brought paper Mario up, so shss..
Did she ever get that thing on her canonically? Did that thing have such tremendous speed? Maybe you guys brought up the same shit, as her moving in supersonic speed, cause she is not. She can only dash in that, when running after a long time, and it gotta be a straight forward way, nothing to get in her way. MC could move so damn fast even with a broken achilles that he could run miles in seconds. And now with two legs, should he run 2 times that? No, because jumping on one leg, and running on two has such a tremendous difference it is silly. I would say around 4 times as fast.....
And unless you can prove that Samus will react at the same time as MC (who btw reacts 300% better and earlier than other humans, and has 300% better reflexes), can have the speed to avoid him (which I pretty much doubt, see above reasons) and the strenght to move him. (Which I doubt, since I haven't seen shit that enhaces her strenght by that much).
If shes gonna go into a ball, she still needs to transform into one, if he is holding her down that's not gonna happen..... If she does that's gonna be even easier holding down. So she can drop bombs....which blows around 3 seconds after. By that time, MC would still be holding her, running away from the bomb, then again until she's out of bombs. Then back to the frying....
Of course it is going to get through her shield in a while, not at once, but in a while. Damn we've seen far weaker things destroy many parts of her suit, twice actually....
Prove it is more durable than MC's, just for the sake of it...
You clearly don't understand what I mean. I mean when they are in their prime of age, like MC is in Halo 2 at the moment, Snake in MGS 1, Samus in MP 2 or Zero suit or whatever...
And I didn't say Snake would hold her down by himself, he would HELP holding her down. Ignoring the fact that Snake was tossing around Fox like a ragdoll, who himself lifted a machine of 10 000 tons?
And you haven't really described a thing to me how the godlike Samus wins this easily and I'm on drugs because thinking otherwise. Samus clearly hasn't the strenght nor the speed nor the reaction time to do it. Fancy weapons will not help her in this case. "Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon".
And other people, stop trolling by saying random comments instead of debating....
Originally posted by kamikz
Damn we've seen far weaker things destroy many parts of her suit, twice actually....
Care to tell which things? Also I maid a mistake. The Boo Cape doesn't really make Mario invisable, it makes him transparent a bit, but it makes him impossible to hit becasue physical things pass right through him (Like a ghost) If he wears it, Snakes bullets won't do anything.
Explosions which she was hardly near. She jumped and some place blew up, and she lost many parts. Seems like her energy shield didn't do much to stop it....
What will Mario do in that state then? And how long can he wear it? Does he always/often carry the boo cape with him?
Listen up everyone, it seems no one is gonna agree with me, although no one has brough me reason enough to belive that she is superior. But it feels kinda dumb for me to just go against everyone on this forum, and it will never stop. And it's not funny to be called "on drugs" or a "fool" or "dumbass". So I just say Samus and Mario wins and end this....
rantingTHAT EXPLOSTION WAS NEAR HER AND THERE WAS ALSO A LARGE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY THAT WENT TROU HER SUIT!!!ranting
Glad I got that out of my system. Anyway, that was also not a small explostion, but rather that part of the ship exploding. Could MC or Snake survive that? No, Snake would have died. MC might have survived but he would be badly injered and would of had no ship to escape on.