Originally posted by FG725
Venom easy...Carnage would lose because of the plasma beams heat and can they predators even see the symbiotes? Anyways Venom can stay underwater for however long he needs till predator walks by he jumps out and WTF PWNS him
so venoms symbiote is better than Carnage's in that it can protect him from things like plasma bolts better? even though Carnage's symbiote grants Kassidy much more strength
ok, i just read wikipedia on both Venom and Carnage. Venoms symbiote= all of spideys powers but stronger because Eddie Brocks strength combines with the symbiote, ability to block spidey sense(doesnt matter here)
camouflage into ne1 or thing including clothing, anything, people ect., its resistant to bullets, even high caliber bullets at that.
Carnage= spideys powers, Class 50 superhuman strength, shapeshifting, ability to turn into any form of clothing, ability to make sharp objects off of suit and use them as projectiles, idunno about protection from projectiles like plasma or bullets it didnt say, so im assuming hes vulnerable to either one. but it doesnt matter, Carnage can camouflage him as his normal self with normal clothing on and pred wouldnt know. and carnage smashes him.
so Venoms suit can block high caliber bullets, but not plasma...? hmm thats iffy about whether or not it'd block the shoulder cannon. ill have to see what someone else says if his suit is vulnerable to fire because i think ive heard that before. fire and loud sounds.
but it doesnt matter. Venom would camouflage himself as som1 else and kill him with brute force when the Pred least expects it
I'm sure pred could see a difference between him and all the rest of the popultion by their senses and their bio helmet. How would Venom notice the pred while he is cloaked. I'm sure the pred has a sonicn device. They may not show it. They also havetheir shoulder-canons and their burners(hand-held flame throwers). Elders are about meybe from 6 ton to class 10 I would suppose, seeing how unlike humans the more they age the more physically better they get. I say Elder Yautja 8/10.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
I'm sure pred could see a difference between him and all the rest of the popultion by their senses and their bio helmet. How would Venom notice the pred while he is cloaked. I'm sure the pred has a sonicn device. They may not show it. They also havetheir shoulder-canons and their burners(hand-held flame throwers). Elders are about meybe from 6 ton to class 10 I would suppose, seeing how unlike humans the more they age the more physically better they get. I say Elder Yautja 8/10.
how would they tell the difference? body heat is body heat. its all gunna look the same in that bio helmet. but u r right about one thing, venom IS vulnerable to fire and so is carnage, so if they get hit with that shoulder cannon plasma caster, then theyre gone. but how would that happen when they cant tell whos who? and Venom has all of spideys powers including a spider sense, it may be kinda hard, but he'd eventually be able to track down the preds location.
but one thing.
i didnt know that about Preds. the older they get the stronger they get?? thats awesome..!! 💃 💃
but i still think that Venom would take this. unless the Predator activates his self-destruct device and wipes out the whole city, but that would kill him too 😆
First off, what is with they and carnage, It would be hard for an Elder to take both of them. I'm sure the Elder's have encountered symbiotes before. 2nd like i said the Elders have burners and as u no the plasma blasters, they also have those wrist-rockets/blaster's with them like seen in Predator 2.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
First off, what is with they and carnage, It would be hard for an Elder to take both of them. I'm sure the Elder's have encountered symbiotes before. 2nd like i said the Elders have burners and as u no the plasma blasters, they also have those wrist-rockets/blaster's with them like seen in Predator 2.
no i was just saying Carnage too because in another thread they said an elder would beat him too and hes basically like a venom with class 50 ton strength..! 😱 the Pred takes em on seperate, i was just trying to make a point that if the Pred could beat Carnage then he would slaughter Venom, but now logically looking at it with all the facts, Venom would actually beat an Elder. I think. and thus, so would Carnage also.
Originally posted by He-guy88
how does spiderman lose in the other one and venom wins in this one??if i rercall venom has been beatin by spiderman
in 90% of spidey venom fights.. spiderman gets wrecked by venom 1on1...
people attributed this to his lack of spidersense when fighting venom... but venom threw that theory out the window when he almost killed ben reilly who had a working spider sense....
venom would also wreck a pred because he has a lot of advantages spiderman doesn't have... if anybody thinks that pred's weapons will make this fight go in their favor no doubt... all I have to say is look at what venom did to that mace warrior regiment... an entire battle brigade of guys with predator-akin weapons and venom devoured each and every one of them.. even the invisible ones..
Originally posted by Darth Martin
But did they have as much fighting skill, weaponry, and expirience as the Elder Yautja do?
yeah they did actually.. every mace warrior is bred for combat.. they are like the marvel version of solid snake but then packed into mini iron man costumes....
experience is the only lacking factor... but what they lacked in experience they make up for in sheer numbers..
Originally posted by braz
how would they tell the difference? body heat is body heat. its all gunna look the same in that bio helmet. but u r right about one thing, venom IS vulnerable to fire and so is carnage, so if they get hit with that shoulder cannon plasma caster, then theyre gone.
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sorry but the only way venom would go down so easily is if this were the weak, steriotypical version that people have built up in their heads after reading the back of a few comic cards... but if this is comic venom we're talking about...
pred weaponry isn't going to do the job. Venom is EXTREMELY resistant to heat and blasts akin to what predator dishes out, and what's worse is that venom needs to be CONSTANTLY attacked by fire, sonics, or lasers to be severly effected by them in the long run. If they let up even for a moment venom's back in the action... preds have only ever shown that they could fire short bursts.. that being the case preds won't take venom down through fire power alone.....
proof you ask?
certainly... here's another lesson in "why jinzin owns 101":
venom's hit head on by a full gas tanker... he doesn't even acknowledge the resulting explosion:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5373206
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5373208
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Venom gets blasted by a desintigration laser that sets his back aflame... he continues to make jokes about it while clobbering the enemy:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5365781
in the arachnis project, venom went through multiple guards suited up with lazers and equivolent firepower.. he then took down the jury (a group of supersoldier types specifically suited up to take venom down), and spiderman in the same fight, and he had a solid advantage.. THEN he goes toe to toe with an upgraded drake IN AN INFERNO 😱 :
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5402773
AND HE WAS WINNING!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5402774
other showings vs. pure light and heat:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5160797
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5160803
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