Originally posted by ExtraMision5555So knowing he can take the blow ... is intelligent for one person, but makes a lesser fighter of another?
So your saying Deadpool did not intelligently decide to "sucker" wolverine into kicking him in the face, knowing that he could take the blow, so that he could stab him?
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555I'm not saying it wasn't intelligent, I'm saying it wasn't skillful. He beat Wolverine because Wolverine's healing factor was working at 1/10 of what it usually works at. Had Wolverine's healing factor been working, Deadpool's swords would have had no more effect on Logan than Logan's claws had on Deadpool. He did not beat Wolverine because he was more skilled, but because Wolverine was handicapped.
So your saying Deadpool did not intelligently decide to "sucker" wolverine into kicking him in the face, knowing that he could take the blow, so that he could stab him?
Originally posted by Creshosk
So knowing he can take the blow ... is intelligent for one person, but makes a lesser fighter of another?
Oh no, dont get me wrong, i never implied wolverine was a lesser fighter, it just seems to me somoene is implying Deadpool had 3 flukes, and deadpool is an inadequit (sp?) fighter when compaired to wolverine. simply not true. not to metion deadpool has the edge when it comes to regen
Originally posted by Shinkuu
I'm not saying it wasn't intelligent, I'm saying it wasn't skillful. He beat Wolverine because Wolverine's healing factor was working at 1/10 of what it usually works at. Had Wolverine's healing factor been working, Deadpool's swords would have had no more effect on Logan than Logan's claws had on Deadpool. He did not beat Wolverine because he was more skilled, but because Wolverine was handicapped.
And thats fine, heres what im saying, Deadpool is more than capable of Incapacitateing wolverine, more often than not due to his extensive fighting ability, versatile aramament as well as superior regen. Not to mention deadpool is an amazing marksman. At the minimum, Deadpool is in the same fighting leauge as wolverine, bottom line.
Originally posted by Shinkuu
Wolverine slashed Deadpool on pure skill 4 times before Deadpool ever made contact with his swords. Wolverine would have killed Deadpool in that fight if Deadpool's didn't have a working healing factor. Deadpool also didn't use skill to impale Wolverine. He took a jump kick to the face in order to sucker Wolverine in for the impaling. Had Deadpool not had a healing factor Wolverine's greater skill with his claws would have killed him and the jump kick would have knocked him out before he could impale Wolverine. It's really not that hard to understand. Deadpool didn't use any skill here. Deadpool used the crutch of Wolverine's non-existant healing factor to pull out an unfair win.
But it still stands, if Wolverine was that much faster and stronger and more skilled than Deadpool he wouldn't of gotten hit at all. But it shows that either Deadpool can score his share of hits on Wolverine or Wolverine is so used to leaning on his healing factor that he'll just willingly take shots.
Originally posted by Shinkuu
Wolverine slashed Deadpool on pure skill 4 times before Deadpool ever made contact with his swords. Wolverine would have killed Deadpool in that fight if Deadpool's didn't have a working healing factor. Deadpool also didn't use skill to impale Wolverine. He took a jump kick to the face in order to sucker Wolverine in for the impaling. Had Deadpool not had a healing factor Wolverine's greater skill with his claws would have killed him and the jump kick would have knocked him out before he could impale Wolverine. It's really not that hard to understand. Deadpool didn't use any skill here. Deadpool used the crutch of Wolverine's non-existant healing factor to pull out an unfair win.
So it's not canon when Wolvie gets his ass kicked because his healing factors on the glitch. But it's a sucker punch when Deadpool manoeuvres Wolverine into setting himself up for a lung piercing ?
Originally posted by grey foxNo it's simply not a reliable example since one of the cahracters wasn't at their best.
So it's not canon when Wolvie gets his ass kicked because his healing factors on the glitch.
Would it be the same if Deadpool's healing factor was on the glitch and wolverine had won? Would'nt you be pointing out the plot device then?
Originally posted by grey foxNo, it wasn't a sucker pucnh, a suckerpunch is usually just a shot that the other person wasn't expecting outside of battle or if the person being attacked appeares to be unsuspecting, but lands a shot on the attacker.
But it's a sucker punch when Deadpool manoeuvres Wolverine into setting himself up for a lung piercing ?
in a full on combat situation it's not really fair to call any moves a sucker punch.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No it's simply not a reliable example since one of the cahracters wasn't at their best.Would it be the same if Deadpool's healing factor was on the glitch and wolverine had won? Would'nt you be pointing out the plot device then?
No, it wasn't a sucker pucnh, a suckerpunch is usually just a shot that the other person wasn't expecting outside of battle or if the person being attacked appeares to be unsuspecting, but lands a shot on the attacker.
in a full on combat situation it's not really fair to call any moves a sucker punch.
No , the sucker punch comment was the way Shinku was describing it, as if DP had suddenly stabbed Wolvie while he was busy ordering a Taco from the buffet table while chatting on his cell about how good his insurance has been since switching to geiko.
When in fact Dp pissed off Wolverine enough to make him attack Dp , the resulting fight ended with Wolvie leaping at Dp and receiving two new assholes ripped into him for his efforts.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, it wasn't a sucker pucnh, a suckerpunch is usually just a shot that the other person wasn't expecting outside of battle or if the person being attacked appeares to be unsuspecting, but lands a shot on the attacker.in a full on combat situation it's not really fair to call any moves a sucker punch.
Its just that he was implying that it was a sucker punch when infact it wasnt. Deadpool saw an opportunity, and took it. I didnt see anything unskillful or suckery about it, as he had implied
