Qui-Gon & ROTS Obi-Wan vs. Darth Revan

In no way is Revan a 'notch' above Yoda or Sidious, that's ridiculous. While Revan could beat these two, you rate him a tad too highly.

Revan is leagues above Yoda or Sidious. His willpower was so strong that he was able to mind control a Hutt.

Prove that's canon. And no, he's not above Yoda and Sidious whatsoever. Even by what we know of Sidious and Yoda, Revan would be ****ed with a ten foot pole, considering Yoda was the strongest Jedi ever up to that time

1. Canon is a point of view.
2. As of ROTS, Yoda and Sidious would get owned in about 5 seconds. DE Sidious would last about one minute.

Ahhh, ignorance is a harsh mistress. Sorry, pal, but you've got no canon evidence there and Yoda's been directly described as the strongest Jedi master who ever lived up until that point.

You were saying? Something...pitifully amusing

As I said, canon is a point of view. I do not accept that quote supporting Yoda. Many jedi masters prior to the PT era are completely leagues above him. Mace himself was superior to him.

I believe you can be ignored now. I don't care what you accept, I care what's written.

Did you also ignore the quote saying that Mace was the most powerful jedi master as of ROTS at the time : force and saber abilities?

I saw where you made it up

Huh?

Alright. In my point of view Revan was a weakling who could fight for squat, made it to the Star Forge by pure chance, didn't kill, fool, control or like anything or anyone, snuck past guards and never wielded anything more than a blaster pistol. He beats Malak by setting mines. In my point of view he can get curbstomped by TPM Anny.

See how "Canon is a point of view" works out? It doesn't. Argue with facts, no your lame opinions. Revan is not leagues above Yoda or Sidious.

This is a VERY close fight, but Revan wins 6/ 10.

Originally posted by Count Kent
Did you also ignore the quote saying that Mace was the most powerful jedi master as of ROTS at the time : force and saber abilities?

😂 And where is this quote exactly?? LOL

Go away, your a n00b.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
In no way is Revan a 'notch' above Yoda or Sidious, that's ridiculous. While Revan could beat these two, you rate him a tad too highly.

Look. Revan's above Dooku. In lightsaber skills, yes, I'd rank Revan a notch or two above Yoda or Sidious.

Yoda's already Mace's superior and Mace was one of the single greatest saber fighters the Jedi order'd ever seen

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yoda's already Mace's superior and Mace was one of the single greatest saber fighters the Jedi order'd ever seen

Look, I'm not going to argue with you. It's just how I see things. The way I see it, in the PT Dooku, Mace, and Anakin were the greatest lightsaber duelists.

Yoda would beat all three. I know that very well. Why? Because he is far faster and far more agile than all of them, and his command of the Force is significantly superior.

Take away the Force, and Yoda couldn't outfight Dooku, Mace, or Anakin.

Fair enough. Though without the force, Dooku and Mace would likely find their own styles stripped from then as well

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Fair enough. Though without the force, Dooku and Mace would likely find their own styles stripped from then as well

Not likely. Especially Dooku, who is trained in just lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat.

I should specify. Excess force, used for intense flipping. Yoda's singular tactic is just to overwhelm the enemy with superior speed and agility, which is the only thing he does.

Mace's tactic though is Vaapad, which channels his inner darkness, there's a lot of force involved there...and Dooku also requires the force to move how he does. He's no longer a young man.

And when Yoda was singularly grounded, he was certainly no slouch

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Mace's tactic though is Vaapad, which channels his inner darkness, there's a lot of force involved there...and Dooku also requires the force to move how he does. He's no longer a young man.

And when Yoda was singularly grounded, he was certainly no slouch

Yep...good points LS.