Originally posted by Ushgarak
Luke took the suit with him for the symbolism. Yes, he burnt the empty suit, and all it represented.
From the film only, however, we don't know that it was an empty suit Luke burned. With all the smoke rising from the mask, you gotta believe there's a body in there... plus it's different color smoke than the rest of the pyre. One must conclude there's a body in there.
One's body doesn't have to disappear to join the netherworld, (e.g., Qui-Gon). While Obi-Wan probably joined instantaneously as he disappeared.
Originally posted by Legion_of_MaulThe scary thing is that Lucas actually first wrote that Obi Wan suddenly materialised back in an early draft of RotJ, maybe he also had that in mind when he made it up in ANH that he should dissapear.
I think it was because obiwan had learned to become one with the force before he actually became one with the force, and qui gon had taught him.
Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
George lucas was drunk when he wrote episode 1
😂
No, not quite.
But if you watch the VERY FIRST web-doc, from Episode I, his daughter had been sick the night before, and he was up all night, with no sleep.
Then he goes: " Here's my new yellow tablets of paper, my number 2 pencils,.....all I need is an idea!"
Think he needed a little more sleep before writing that one, do ya? 😛
Originally posted by Darth Vious
One theory I've heard, is that as Anakin was brought into existence by the Force, when he died, the Force 'took him back'.
Thats the stupidest theory i've ever heard in my life. It's like saying you've commited the biggest sin in your life and you go to heaven. In my opinion Anakin should not have become one with the force after what he did in ROTS. However the only reason he was able to go was because of Obi-Wan and Yoda, they were his closest friends so that may explain a lot
Originally posted by MC_GG
Thats the stupidest theory i've ever heard in my life. It's like saying you've commited the biggest sin in your life and you go to heaven. In my opinion Anakin should not have become one with the force after what he did in ROTS. However the only reason he was able to go was because of Obi-Wan and Yoda, they were his closest friends so that may explain a lot
AAAAA.....guess what. Yes he did do a lot of bad stuff.. but ultimately he brought balance to the force, and did the right thing by destroying the emperor( and all evil he represented). He deserved to become one with the force. At least the creator of the Star Wars-George Lucas thought so.
Originally posted by PVS
the problem with that: vader was already dead, while yoda and ben vanished either a split second before or after they died. so the common reply would be that anakin disappeared on the deathstar. but if that was the case, why did luke take the suit with him? if anakin was gone, then all that remained was an empty suit which only symbolised the man who "betrayed and murdered" anakin.anyway, he could have known how because of ben or yoda instructing him as he died.
My theory, not as good as the real explanation Lucas alone could give, is that Luke knew the suit was the vessel keeping Anakin alive until he could redeem himself.
While the suit was, in fact, the very symbolism of Vader that we all knew and sat in awe of looking at from the first time we saw Episode IV, in Episode VI, Luke made it clear he knew his father was still in there and there was still good in him.
To Luke, Vader was simply a transport Anakin was riding in until the moment he saw Luke writhing in pain at the Emperor's blasts. A necessary evil for Luke to endure to allow his father to redeem himself.
Could Luke have taken the emperor alone if he didn't have the ulterior motive of redeeming his father? That is a question that we could debate for pages and pages of posts.
LMAO, no, Luke would get WTFpwned by Palpatine. Actually wait, he DID get WTFpwned by Palpatine. Vader saved him, if Vader didn't turn back to the light at that point, Luke was dead. Thats the suspense of the scene, the very point of the whole movie. Anakin must choose between his son, or the evil he's been living with for the past 20+ years under Palpatine. To Vader it was like "Can I let my son die, like I let my mother die, and then like I let Padme die, all for this man who I know is evil?" and the answer was no. Vader always had a soft spot for Luke, he never fought Luke really, he never, in ESB or ROTJ, had any intent, or tried in any way to kill Luke. He was always in "conflict" as Luke kept saying. Anyways, I'm rambling, but the point is that Palpatine would pwn Luke had he attempted to fight him head on.
Originally posted by chinabing
And if Lucas had explained everything down to a formula, such as:X (# of your midichlorians) x
Y (years of studying the force) x
Z (years of jedi masterhood) x
A (# of selfless acts) x
B (Jedi mind tricks) /
C (floating fruit to get chicks) =
E (Ratio of achieving eternal life)you'd be happy?
No no no....
Looks, Lucas did a very inconsistent thing. McCallum even claimed that Anakin ALSO disappeared right after death. THen I wonder: why didn't they show it? As far as I'm concerned, Anakin is still IN the suit while it's getting burned. For some odd reason Anakin immediately receives his credits in Force heaven and he looks the way he did when he was an arrogant annoying brat.
It all just doesn't make sense... but then, maybe it isn't supposed to.
On a side note... does anyone think Luke even KNEW at the end of ROTJ who that young ghost figure with the long hair was?