Omega Red vs Venom

Originally posted by Kinasin
I don't think the death spores would even effect venom considering the symbiote has been show to neutralize any toxin and also venom could incapacitate omega with webbing hang him upside down then proceed to tear his skull open with his tendrils and feast.

Well, they are extremely potent and lethal....Colossus, invulnerable to nearly everything, even disease in his metal form, was getting drained during the fight with Red. Venom probably can't withstand it; even if he can though, doesn't really matter.

Webbing won't work, Red is more than strong enough to break it, and his tendrils still work even if he can't move. So hanging him upside down does jack sh*t.

I could say Arkady does the same thing to Venom, hangs him up by his arms and then beats him to death.

Also I'm not sure venom was powered up the by chemical sludge he fell into or whatever if anything it weakened him and caused him to not think straight and made him fight not even close to his full potential....As far as durability goes he was taking punches repeatedly to the dome right from juggernaut and laughing I think that says a ton. His tendrils I think are stronger than red's carbonadium which isn't even close to being on par with adamantium. I think Venom takes this quite easily.

Also the deathspores don't even come into the picture because were not sure if venom can absorb them or not even though the facts point to that he can so for this encounter those aren't even applicable.

Plus venom can use invisibility to his advantage and has been shown using his symbiote as a weapon I really think he can take omega.

Omega red energy absorption and death spores are two different things. The death spores wont work but there isn't any reason to say the life drain wouldn't work.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Also I'm not sure venom was powered up the by chemical sludge he fell into or whatever if anything it weakened him and caused him to not think straight and made him fight not even close to his full potential....As far as durability goes he was taking punches repeatedly to the dome right from juggernaut and laughing I think that says a ton. His tendrils I think are stronger than red's carbonadium which isn't even close to being on par with adamantium. I think Venom takes this quite easily.

adamantium > carbonadium >>> symbiote tendrils

Originally posted by Kinasin
Also I'm not sure venom was powered up the by chemical sludge he fell into or whatever it was if anything it weakened him and caused him to not think straight and made him fight not even close to his full potential....As far as durability goes he was taking punches repeatedly to the dome right from juggernaut and laughing I think that says a ton. His tendrils I think are stronger than red's carbonadium which isn't even close to being on par with adamantium. I think Venom takes this quite easily.

First off....you could've just made that one post, that's beside the point though.

Red's death spores are some of the most powerful we've ever seen, there's a high chance they will work on Venom. And he still has energy drain.

Being invisible doesn't matter if you can't hurt the person you're fighting. If a 80 pound girl can turn invisible, and she's fighting Brock Lesnar....it doesn't matter because she can't hurt him.

And yes, he was powered up and driven insane by the sludge. It powered his durability greatly, and he went temporarily insane...more than usual, as a result. That's the whole reason they showed him falling into the goo, because if they didn't, he would've had no reason to fight Juggernaut, other than to die.

LOL, seriously? You think organic symbiotic webbing is more powerful than Carbonadium? Sure it's not Vibranium or Adamantium, but it's still one of the most durable metals on earth, and invulnerable to just about anything except Adamantium.

I can tell you like Venom, but this is like putting Killer Croc up against Lizard....Venoms outmatched.

Originally posted by KingD19
First off....you could've just made that one post, that's beside the point though.

Red's death spores are some of the most powerful we've ever seen, there's a high chance they will work on Venom. And he still has energy drain.

Being invisible doesn't matter if you can't hurt the person you're fighting. If a 80 pound girl can turn invisible, and she's fighting Brock Lesnar....it doesn't matter because she can't hurt him.

And yes, he was powered up and driven insane by the sludge. It powered his durability greatly, and he went temporarily insane...more than usual, as a result. That's the whole reason they showed him falling into the goo, because if they didn't, he would've had no reason to fight Juggernaut, other than to die.

LOL, seriously? You think organic symbiotic webbing is more powerful than Carbonadium? Sure it's not Vibranium or Adamantium, but it's still one of the most durable metals on earth, and invulnerable to just about anything except Adamantium.

I can tell you like Venom, but this is like putting Killer Croc up against Lizard....Venoms outmatched.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Look no need to lose your cool. I think you believe venom doesn't have super human strength, agility, and reflexes, that are on par with Omegas which is just not true. Venom has beaten up spidy, carnage, and ton's of other people with superhuman strength and I'm pretty sure he is probably stronger in all areas than omega is.

Venom is stronger yes but not faster or more skilled. His durability is also not as good because Omega red has taken several beatings from the likes of colossus and walked away with a smile. Also the carbonadium tentacles constantly drain away Venoms life energy and as said before the deathspores are very potent and it is unknown how well Venom would deal with them even with his toxic immunities. But even so the life drain is the biggest threat along with the fact that omega red is a fully fledged hand mutant with insane durability at least class 10 strength and the ability to go toe to toe with teams of xmen. He doesn't necessarily win but he definitely does better than what I think Venom Gargan would do.

I just wonder if the venom symbiote would be vulnerable to the life drain.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Look no need to lose your cool. I think you believe venom doesn't have super human strength, agility, and reflexes, that are on par with Omegas which is just not true. Venom has beaten up spidy, carnage, and ton's of other people with superhuman strength and I'm pretty sure he is probably stronger in all areas than omega is.

I'm not losin my cool, just stating facts..

I've read comics for years, and you still haven't specified if this is Brock Venom or Gargan Venom.

Omega has some pretty decent strength feats that put him out of Venom's range, and his durability is so much that Venom can't really hurt him.

Originally posted by KingD19
I'm not losin my cool, just stating facts..

I've read comics for years, and you still haven't specified if this is Brock Venom or Gargan Venom.

Omega has some pretty decent strength feats that put him out of Venom's range, and his durability is so much that Venom can't really hurt him.

Well generally I would assume Brock venom if someone just says venom considering that will always be the true venom IMO unless specified otherwise.

Strength wise Omega is only about a class 10 but he goes against much heavier bricks and the life drain wears them down to manageable levels. His durability is what lets him last to that point.

Red takes this

Also it says venom is a strength class 60 so he easily overpowers red with ease

Originally posted by Kinasin
Also it says venom is a strength class 60 so he easily overpowers red with ease

Physical strength is not the be all end all... Omega Red has higher durability, higher skill, about the same speed, energy drain as well as carbonadium tentacles of pwn. stop venom wanking

Didn't read colossus vs red but from what I heard omega drained him/spored him so it wasn't like he was fighting anything near a class 100 colossus and I've yet to see proof that omega could even drain brock's symbiote. Since when is arguing your side "wanking".

As far as I'm aware there hasn't been an enemy yet that Omega Red cannot drain.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Didn't read colossus vs red but from what I heard omega drained him so it wasn't like he was fighting anything near a class 100 colossus and I've yet to see proof that omega could even drain brock's symbiote