knuckles is way cooler than shadow. in sonic x when shadow fought sonic in some of the last episodes sonic was owned but when knuckles fought shadow a little while after he was actually giving shadow a challenge shadow knew it would waste time so ran away and for those that talking about cannon this not cannon that you need to study your facts knuckles would beat up shadow if shadow doesnt use special abilities like super shadow and chaos control even with knux would still win
First off, that doesn't count to the series' canon being that it didn't occur in the games. Secondly, the only time I recall them ever fighting in Sonic X showed Shadow beating Knuckles pretty soundly after removing the rings on his wrists, although he was visibly winded for a little while after it.
Seriously, Shadow is by chance the most powerful character in the series. He can do anything Sonic does, is physically stronger than nearly everyone except Knuckles, and maybe Omega, and he has the most skill with using the Chaos powers in the games--in the comics, Chaos Knuckles (the green form), was presumably the most powerful Chaos-wielding being on the planet (until dying and coming back in his normal form).
Chaos Knuckles was likely the most powerful mortal being ever seen on Mobius, even though he could not control his powers.
By virtue of feats, I think he was above his Enerjak form as well.
Also, seriously, who bumped up this shit?
Shadow wins. He's a piece of shit, but he's far more powerful than Knuckles.
So far, Shadow has demonstrated the greatest mastery of Chaos related powers, most of which iirc, Sonic cannot use. A few, Sonic cannot use unless he has a Chaos Emerald, or he doesn't use them due to his conscience.
When Knuckles was Enerjak, he never lost to Shadow. He casually beat both Shadow and Sonic. Later, he was in a fairly even battle with Super Sonic, though Enerjak's powers were drained considerably from Eggman's Egg Grapes.
Nope, Sonic X is also not canon to the game-verse.
Knuckles would most likley win.
Knuckles has speed. Remember, every couple of pixels in "Sonic & Knuckles" represents a mile and he was close to Sonic in speed. And even Sega has said Knuckles' strength is the equivalent to Sonic's speed and Sonic can run up to 3,000 miles an hour, as fast as sound. That would make Knuckles godly strong, even stronger than Goku without Super Sayain, maybe even with it. He is strong enough to split the hydrogen in the air by punching. When he punches, fire covers his fists, and a punch to the ground can cause fissures. Can Shadow do that? Hell no. Can Shadow even pick up a car? No. Knuckles is by far, without a doubt, the physically strongest thing in the Sonic Universe. And not only does the Red Rad have speed and strength, but skill to boot. Knuckles is an expert in martial arts, if you don't believe me read the SA2 manual. Knuckles has senses beyond anyone in the Sonic series, too (except maybe Sonic), so spinning in a circle is not going to stop him. He is also smart. And yes, Knuckles can go super and even beyond, and has done so in the games and comics. Shadow has never gone hyper either. The only way he might lose is if he loses his cool, and being Knuckles, that can go both ways. He has a huge temper, but despite that can keep his cool pretty well.
Shadow is not the same speed as Sonic and if he has to use a gun like a pussy, Knuckles can still dodge it. When was the last game besides "Shadow the Hedgehog" he has ever used a gun anyway? Nothing except for the beginning and ending of that game was canon anyway so the Diablon argument is automatically invalid. And if Shadow has to be desperate enough to use Chaos Control, I doubt it would do much. If Sonic can do it, I am sure the guardian of the emeralds can figure it out, too. All in all, Shadow wouldn't stand a chance.
I seriously think Shadow is over rated. He is popular the same reason Sasuke is, because he is an emo priss that thinks he is better than everybody and the fan-girls over hype about him, though he is not nearly as bad. I am not saying he can't fight or be cool at times. In fact, Shadow is one of my top five favorite characters, 1. Knuckles 2. Shadow 3. Blaze 4. Sonic and 5. Espio and Shade (can't decide), so I am speaking as a Shadow fan boy, too. I am just saying he is not the strongest creature in Sonic that everyone thinks he is.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfEvidence?
Knuckles has speed. Remember, every couple of pixels in "Sonic & Knuckles" represents a mile
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfEvidence?
And even Sega has said Knuckles' strength is the equivalent to Sonic's speed
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfActually, Sonic apparently has a max speed of mach 3.
and Sonic can run up to 3,000 miles an hour, as fast as sound.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfEven if what you said before is true, no... Just no.
That would make Knuckles godly strong, even stronger than Goku without Super Sayain, maybe even with it.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfWhen does he do that? Also, that isn't a sign of strength at all.
He is strong enough to split the hydrogen in the air by punching.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfProbably.
Can Shadow do that?
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfHe can flip a truck with one hand, without effort. That's much heavier than a car. Also, wen had Knux ever lifted a car himself?
Can Shadow even pick up a car?
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfI'll admit that he is stronger than Shadow, but not by enough for it to count.
Knuckles is by far, without a doubt, the physically strongest thing in the Sonic Universe.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfIt is if the person spinning is going three times the speed of sound.
Knuckles has senses beyond anyone in the Sonic series, too (except maybe Sonic), so spinning in a circle is not going to stop him.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfComics and cartoons have not and will never be canon. And those moments in the games are also questionable.
And yes, Knuckles can go super and even beyond, and has done so in the games and comics.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfWhy would he need to?
Shadow has never gone hyper either.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfYes he is. In fact, he may even be faster, due to his shoes. This has been demonstrated multiple times in every game they've both appeared in.
Shadow is not the same speed as Sonic
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfShadow won't need a gun. Also, evidence?
and if he has to use a gun like a pussy, Knuckles can still dodge it.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfExcept for, you know, stopping time, giving Shadow the automatic victory. 😛
And if Shadow has to be desperate enough to use Chaos Control, I doubt it would do much.
Originally posted by Flame-LoneWolfSo far, has anyone besides a hedgehog been able to use chaos control? If not, then your argument was less valid than it was to begin with.
If Sonic can do it, I am sure the guardian of the emeralds can figure it out, too.
Shadow is as fast as Sonic, who is a league above Knuckles in speed. And while Knux may be stronger, Shadow isn't far behind. Shadow's speed and powers give him the win.