The Origin of the title of "Darth"

lucas made one BIG script and decided it was too long to put into one movie and divided it up accordingly. havent you watched the extras on the special edition? lucas tells the whole story of how the story was written. just listen to the first half hour of the commentary in ANH. remember that scene in ANH at the moisture farm when owen mentions that ben knew lukes father and lukes shouts out: "he knew my father!?" and beru gives that testy look to owen when finally says: "i told you to forget him"

you cant tell me that lucas had no idea that vader was predetermined to be lukes father. it hints it in such an obvious way after seeing ESB.

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Read what I said again. Carefully this time. At the point he invented Vader, Vader was NOT Luke's fathwer. ANAKIN SKYWALKER WAS ALREADY IN IT! As a character. As Luke's father. Separate from Vader, a villain KILLED AT THE END OF THE FILM.

Geez.

so when ANH was writen before vader was recognized as lukes father to GL himself, when owen says "i told you to forget him" in the first film it was because he didnt want him to know his father was a jedi? was that GL original intent? i dont understand. help me understand because if im mistaken about star wars history than i need to know the truth. i havent read anywhere that lucas decided AFTER ANH that vader was his father. because the orginal story had ALREADY been written, the whole thing before ANH started production, but had to be split into seperate storylines, and the events in ESB were already decided thats why he clued it in in that scene in ANH.

Just to help you understand what Ushgarak is trying to tell you. When a movie script or novel is written there are many drafts before the final is completed. So when GL first wrote Star Wars before he even put it to film he wrote Anakin in as a living character. Vader was just some dude who died at the end. Then while GL was fixing up the script he made some changes. Over the course of many script changes he finally changed the whole story, little by little each time, to what you see in ANH, ESB and ROTJ. There are many steps before an author is please enough with thier work to release it to the public. So what you see in the movie is not the original story. At least not when he first wrote it.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
oh thats wierd cause i thought that lucas actually SAID that vader was directly linked to the dutch word.

he did

i cant be bothered writing it all again
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Well, you are not going to be believed. Besides which, the logical issues STILL remain.

I can only ask you to read my posts once again, Space Opera. At the point the character Darth Vader was created, he was simply a villain for one film who died, entirely separat efrom the Anakin Skywalker character, who was in the film.

That changed by the time the ecript was finalised, but the point remains that at the time the Vader character was created, he had no connection with being anyone's father at all.

Go watch the TPM extras on the DVD, where he talks about the original version with the other directors.

oh god, i dont know how many people have told me they know GL. if you do know him then crongradufukinglations. but i dont believe you what so ever. if i knew GL then i wouldnt tell anybody just for the mere fact that nobody would believe me.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
oh god, i dont know how many people have told me they know GL. if you do know him then crongradufukinglations. but i dont believe you what so ever. if i knew GL then i wouldnt tell anybody just for the mere fact that nobody would believe me.

Originally posted by Nactous
The new SW Insider has this to say, (hell this is long.)

The Title of "Darth."

Many of the Dark Lords of the Sith chose to add "Darth" to their name. The very word has become synonymous with the wonderous power of the Dark Side. However, the origins of the word are unclear. While many see "Darth" as nothing more than a contraction of Dark Lord of the Sith, there is some evidence for a deeper interpertation of the term.

Darth Revan and Darth Malak are generally believed to be the first dark lords to use the title. Given that much of their power was drived from the Star Forge, a creation of the extinct Rakatan species, some historians see "Darth" as a coruption of Daritha, the Rakatan word for "emperor." Similary others note that the wordfor "triumph" or "conquest" in Rakatan is Darr tahh and means "triumph over death" or "immortal." A compeling theory asserts that the true meaning of darr tah is "conquest through death"... of ones enemies.

Numerous other cultures or species can-and-do make similar claims to the etymology of the Dath title. But great are the mysteries of the Dark Side, and in the end there is no definitive answer."

So take it all you anti-KotOR people. You ow KotOR for the origins of the Darth name. 😛

Actually George Lucas came up with the word Darth for the Sith and the creators of KoToR just stole it from GL.

considering how KOTR WAS PRODUCED 25 YEARS AFTER ANH than i think the writing crdits go to GL

But was "Anakin" as a character first indtoduced in ROTJ?

I dunno about the novellization, but he was first mentioned by name in ROTJ. So Luke had a father but he was without name... OR something like that yea...

He has a point. Darth Vader's true name was not mentioned until Return of the Jedi. Which means that the first draft that had the character Anakin may not have been Luke's father but the character of Vader could have been.

The name was first used in those early drafts. And he WAS Luke's father. He was Luke's father, named, Anakin, in the film. Luke was also with his sister (who was not actually Leia at the time). The point is that in the first draft, the family was together. By the final draft, they were not, but the backstory about Vader being Luke's father came in a LONG time after his name did.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
oh god, i dont know how many people have told me they know GL. if you do know him then crongradufukinglations. but i dont believe you what so ever. if i knew GL then i wouldnt tell anybody just for the mere fact that nobody would believe me.

thats why i'm not going to argue it
i really dont care if u believe me

Originally posted by TheBalance
thats why i'm not going to argue it
i really dont care if u believe me

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