Originally posted by nimrod009
Yeah, regardless of what may have happened in that comic, Omega Red should win this at least 8/10 with his power and versatility...he must have been having a bad day 😛It's very difficult for Sabretooth to even get near Omega Red, let alone hurt him. Red on the other hand, has multiple ways to put the pain to Sabretooth.
He was uisng his death factor. It just wasn't enough to put Creed down. Hell it doesn't stop Wolveriene from fighting him either.
Come to think of it didn't Wolverine beat him too? So if anything is PIS its Omega Red beatign the X-Men.
Originally posted by Warmonger
He was uisng his death factor. It just wasn't enough to put Creed down. Hell it doesn't stop Wolveriene from fighting him either.Come to think of it didn't Wolverine beat him too? So if anything is PIS its Omega Red beatign the X-Men.
I writer didnt know what the hell he was doing. Red WASNT using the Death Factor. He was using the Phermones. Had he used the Death Factor, Sabes would be dead. Phermones are what kept Sabes healing factor in overdrive.
If Red would have used the Death Factor, Creed would indeed be down in seconds just like Wolvie has been in the past. And Wolverine has never beat Omegta Red to my knowledge. Unless you know the issue and comic.
What is the point in creating a thread titled "Sabertooth Vs. Omega Red", then, when someone says an opinion that conflicts the thread creators opinion, they state "It's already happened and I'm right so don't bother posting!"?
(I must say, I'm not directly quoting the thread creator, but that's the impression I'm getting from him...)
Originally posted by jrodslam
I writer didnt know what the hell he was doing. Red WASNT using the Death Factor. He was using the Phermones. Had he used the Death Factor, Sabes would be dead. Phermones are what kept Sabes healing factor in overdrive.If Red would have used the Death Factor, Creed would indeed be down in seconds just like Wolvie has been in the past. And Wolverine has never beat Omegta Red to my knowledge. Unless you know the issue and comic.
Splitting hairs?
X-Factor 138
Omega Red: "Now come closer, Creed my Death Factor Phermone should keep your enhanced healing factor busy enough to put you in a weakened state."
Sabertooth: "Not weak enough for your purposes."
Omega Red couldn't even turn the Death Factor Phermones off thats why he needed the Synthesiszer. So yes Creed did stand up to Omega Red's Death Factor.
Originally posted by Warmonger
Splitting hairs?X-Factor 138
Omega Red: "Now come closer, Creed my Death Factor Phermone should keep your enhanced healing factor busy enough to put you in a weakened state."
Sabertooth: "Not weak enough for your purposes."
Omega Red couldn't even turn the Death Factor Phermones off thats why he needed the Synthesiszer. So yes Creed did stand up to Omega Red's Death Factor.
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The Phermones is the air-type power - Makes people dizzy and could kill them if exposed long enough. People with healing factors like Wolvie and Sabes use most of their healing factor to counteract the Phermones, but it makes them a bit woozy and weak at first.
The Death Facor is the draining-type power - Drains people of their life force and if drained long enough, drains down to the bone and beyond. When applied to Wolverine, he was out in a matter of a couple ofseconds.
It seems you dont know much about Red. Red can decide when and when not to turn off the Phermones. Red has needed the C-Sizer for many years. The reason for him needing it is so that he doesnt HAVE to use the DEATH Facor to drain people of their life energy sustaining his own.
Omega Red used the Phermones on Sabertooth in X-Factor #138.
Originally posted by jrodslam
❌The Phermones is the air-type power - Makes people dizzy and could kill them if exposed long enough. People with healing factors like Wolvie and Sabes use most of their healing factor to counteract the Phermones, but it makes them a bit woozy at first.
The Death Facor is the draining-type power - Drains people of their life force and if drained long enough, drains down to the bone and beyond. When applied to Wolverine, he was out in a matter of a couple ofseconds.
It seems you dont know much about Red. Red can decide when and when not to turn off the Phermones. Red has needed the C-Sizer for many years. The reason for him needing it is so that he doesnt HAVE to use the DEATH Facor to drain people of their life energy sustaining his own.
Omega Red used the Phermones on Sabertooth in X-Factor #138.
Is that a fact? Well thats certainly possible. However going off of the two fights I've seen with Red in it I can't say I've seen this instant drain power except used on throw-away civilians. I've seen even nightcrawler stand up to it for a while.
Originally posted by Warmonger
Is that a fact? Well thats certainly possible. However going off of the two fights I've seen with Red in it I can't say I've seen this instant drain power except used on throw-away civilians. I've seen even nightcrawler stand up to it for a while.
Fact indeed.
In X-Men #4, Red used the Phermones on Beast and Jubilee which knocked them out in seconds. It wouldnt nor did it ko Wolvie. Red then grabbed him and used the Death Factor which knocked Wolvie out in seconds.
Nightcrawler didnt stnd up to the Phermones at all. As soon as Red released them, Kurt fell to his knees then Lady D punched him in the water.
Originally posted by Warmonger
Ah well it seems I was mistaken.But Creed did receive a massive boost in both his toughness and durablity from Weapon X since that fight, so I'm not so sure he'll go down in seconds but I am willing to concede he loses more often than not then.
Creed wont go down in seconds as long as the Death Factor isnt applied. If Red uses the Phermones or just pure h2h and tentacles, the fight can last for hours maybe even days. If Red wraps Creed in the tentacles, Creed isnt getting out. Red could then try to break hs neck or drown him if they are by water.😬