Any PETA Members on KMC?

Joking aside, I've seen a few of those videos going around on the web of cows being mercifully killed in slaughter houses and it was very disgusting. I felt bad for those poor animals. I say mercifullly becuase it looked like some of those animals weren't living in "ideal" conditions so death was probably a blessing for some of them. As a result, I'm trying to cut red meat out of my diet. Something about seeing the actual process of how my food gets to my stomach was kind of an eye-opener. But don't get me wrong, if I'm starving you can be damn sure I'll go out and try to bag my a cow, kill it, cook it, than eat it. And I'd be happy doing it. The thing is though, I'll more than likely never be in that position, seeing as how I live in a place where very few people need to worry about starving to death.

It seems like the 2 extremes to this debate are people who want us to live in a utopia reminiscent of Noah's ark, where we live in harmony with all of "God's" creatures. I say to that: BS. People need to eat and if the only place they can get it is from some cute widdle bunny wabbit so be it, and more power to them. The other extreme says that those tree huggin' hippies can't tell me what to eat. If I want to eat a ham sandwich for breakfast, 2 cheeseburgers for lunch, and a ribeye for dinner, not to mention the beef jerkies for in-between-meal-snacks then I can because it's a free country. To these people I say: when you have a heart attack and failing liver at 45 don't be mad when the doctors have to amputate the swollen mass's you call your feet.

People need to eat and the healthiest way to do that would be to lead a mostly vegetarian lifestlye. It just so happens that it being healthy also means that animals wouldn't be bred for our consumption, en masse. It should be looked at it that way and not the other way around, I think.

So in short eating lots of vegies, fruits, grains and certain proteins (nuts, fish, soy etc. is the way to go but that alternative isn't available to everyone.

Vegans: get off your high-horse. It's important to spread awareness but it doesn't help when you look down on everyone else as being less intelligent than a cow (aka person who started the other thread about animal testing).

Beef-zealots: wipe the grease from your eyes, and if you can search for a meat alternative, you'll be healthier for doing so. There's isn't anything much more rewarding than being able to run around the block a few times.

for all you vegetarians

hate mail

Originally posted by lord xyz
for all you vegetarians

hate mail

And then you got these guys....^

I'm a vegetarian and proud of it!!

80%

Originally posted by meep-meep
And then you got these guys....^

I was refering to the lord abc, not to the whole group of individuals he so tactifully categorized.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I'm a vegetarian and proud of it!!

80%

You harm those poor innocent plants? 🙁 What did they ever do to you?

You do know that cutting a plant results in a physiological response that could be interpreted as pain don't you? Or do just figure the further from human the better?

😆 J/K

Well I do feel bad about those little plants................I know they're screaming for help........lol

But they're being abused anyway and commit suicidal acts because of this thing with cat pee and torturous drought implementations.......They wilt and nobody cares........so, I consider it an act of mercy..........

What do people think about what lord xyz posted?

No offense, but who cares? Why give him the attention he is so desperately looking for?

What did he post? I can't click the link 'cause I'm at work. If it's too much effort to tell me, that's okay.

I'm a PETA member and there has been a new amendment that says it is now not against the PETA law to squish mosquitos. You also can now bat dogs on their noses if they ram their beaks into your crotch.

It's really long........

Originally posted by botankus
What did he post? I can't click the link 'cause I'm at work. If it's too much effort to tell me, that's okay.

I'm a PETA member and there has been a new amendment that says it is now not against the PETA law to squish mosquitos. You also can now bat dogs on their noses if they ram their beaks into your crotch.

Why the hell do dogs do that anyway? Maybe they just like interesting smells...

He provided a link to some site. Here's the site: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

He than provided another link that provides people to send hate mail to the creator of the article. Since he didn't post anything of his own opinion. I assume he just posted the link to piss vegetarian's off. If I'm wrong about you, lordxyz, I apologize. Next time state why you posted a link. Otherwise you just look like a troll when you provide inflammatory links.

The dude had a temp ban about a week ago. Dunno what it was for. Maybe bashing?

I do not think lordxyz was forum trolling, maybe I am wrong but I think what was in the links also expressed his opinion, nevertheless it is an interesting read.

yeah.. i mean i think its good to look at the many sides of issues, and try to be conscious of whats really happening. I think awareness is good. But I dont think its fair to generalize about all vegetarians. Everybody does it for their own reasons. It would be awesome if many people could grow gardens and or buy from local/organic gardens, and make conscious choices about how they live.

I drive through the middle of nowhere for 2 hours a day, so I feel the need to report every animal I hit, which usually happens quite often.

This morning I hit a bird on a rural route. The guy was eating some dead animal and here comes my Ford Focus. He tries to fly over my windshield, but too late.

That bird --> rip

If you'd like, I will be taking bets on the animals I hit. Here are the choices with at least a 50% chance of getting hit:

Deer
Dog
Cat
Turtle
Frog
Rat
Mouse
Bird
Snake
Horse (eh, maybe about 1% chance, but the payout should be large)
Person (damn walkers)
Raccoon

Bugs don't count. I hit about 500 a day.

everyone has to be critic. 🙄

It's not those tortured plants, it's the fact that agriculture is very harmful to animals in more ways than possible, some vegitarians know they're doing it! oh

The fact is, animals are animal food, if it's so bad, why do people do it in the first place? It's nature, deal with it.

The one thing PETA really needs to rethink is their thing about "liberating all animals". The animals that we have as pets, primarily cats and dogs, have been domesticated for so long, that put into the wild, they wouldn't know what to do, and would most surely die. Maybe not some of the cats, who have the natural instinct to hunt mice and birds, but I have never seen my own cat, who catches a mouse almost every week, actually eat it. He brings it back to us, sometimes still alive, as a present.

Yeah it seems like some of the animal rights activists think some animals should be treated more humanely than your average homeless person.

Some animal rights folks: "Let's all eat vegies,nuts and berries and leave our animal brothers and sisters to their own devices where they kill and eat one another on a daily basis...I wonder why I weigh 100 pounds and am 5'10. And why are my arms as thick around as a soda can?"