Originally posted by Metalmanx
...Schwa?Spider-Man is still the same characer he's been for 40+ years now...right?
What do you mean? Spidermans GREAT speed and agility? Yeah, they are amazing, but not SO much that Deadpool can't cope. As shown by that fight - Deadpool dodged some of Spidey's attacks. Besides - if a TON of people think Wolverine could take Spiderman, I don't see why Deadpool couldn't.
Originally posted by Soljer
What do you mean? Spidermans GREAT speed and agility? Yeah, they are amazing, but not SO much that Deadpool can't cope. As shown by that fight - Deadpool dodged some of Spidey's attacks. Besides - if a TON of people think Wolverine could take Spiderman, I don't see why Deadpool couldn't.
You mean his far superior:
-Speed
-Agility
-STRENGTH
-Dexterity
-Reflexes
-Intelligence
-Durability (Deadpool has greater regenerative abilities, however)
-Resourcefulness
And you really shouldn't use the if people think A can beat B then C can beat B argument. I mean, what if a lot of poorly-informed people thought that Squidboy could defeat Hulk? If lots of them thought so, does that make it true?
Needless to say, Spider-Man could not kill DP, but he could easily KO him. DP's been KOed before. Can be done again. Especially by someone who is leagues superior in almost every physical category.
That's just because everyone knows that Deadpool wins this one. Anyways, metalman; Spiderman has all of those things over Wolverine, as well, yet he still has plenty of support in their fights. And he has a winning record against spiderman. I think Deadpool and Wolverine are pretty comparable, as they underwent similar Weapon X training and enhancements (though deadpool doesn't have an adamantium skeleton, or claws.)
I'm pretty confident that if Wolverine can take a majority against Spiderman, Deadpool would be able to do similarly. Meh. But that is for a different thread, yes? As Sparkz pointed out, this is a bit off topic.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
You mean his far superior:-Speed
-Agility
-STRENGTH
-Dexterity
-Reflexes
-Intelligence
-Durability (Deadpool has greater regenerative abilities, however)
-ResourcefulnessAnd you really shouldn't use the if people think A can beat B then C can beat B argument. I mean, what if a lot of poorly-informed people thought that Squidboy could defeat Hulk? If lots of them thought so, does that make it true?
Needless to say, Spider-Man could not kill DP, but he could easily KO him. DP's been KOed before. Can be done again. Especially by someone who is leagues superior in almost every physical category.
-Speed: Spidey
-Agility: Spidey, though only because it's increased by his speed
-STRENGTH : ... well, duh
-Dexterity: actually, here I disagree. DP's deexterity
-Reflexes: Due to the spidey-sense
-Intelligence: Not a factor when fighting DP.
-Durability (Deadpool has greater regenerative abilities, however) (That by far exceed Wolverine's, however)
-Resourcefulness : Perhaps... 😖hifty:
That doesn't mean DP can't score a few wins. He's taken down other major players. He exceeds Wolverine in quite a few areas.
DP vs. Spidy?
DP 4/10
Originally posted by jrodslam
Daredevil wins. Deadpool isnt as skilled as DD in h2h combat. Secopndly, DP has no weapons here, so DD doesnt have much to dodge in this case. Because DP can be knocked out, DD wins due to superior h2h skills.Daredevil 7/10.
Deadpool can be knocked out, yes. But it would require a torrential rain of blows on DD's part to do this. Between blows, DP would be healing from the attacks (bruises, broken bones, concussions, etc.).
For those reasons are why I feel that DP will win. And DP is an incredible hand-to-hand fighter as well, with DD being his slight superior.
Edit: It will also be much harder for DD to dodge DP because he is enhanced/superhuman in some of his abilities. Speed, strength, agility, etc.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
-Speed: Spidey
-Agility: Spidey, though only because it's increased by his speed
-STRENGTH : ... well, duh
-Dexterity: actually, here I disagree. DP's deexterity
-Reflexes: Due to the spidey-sense
-Intelligence: Not a factor when fighting DP.
-Durability (Deadpool has greater regenerative abilities, however) (That by far exceed Wolverine's, however)
-Resourcefulness : Perhaps... 😖hifty:That doesn't mean DP can't score a few wins. He's taken down other major players. He exceeds Wolverine in quite a few areas.
DP vs. Spidy?
DP 4/10
While I believe Deadpool is superior to Wolverine, what makes Wolvie more of a threat is that damn adamantium skeleton. That's what keeps him alive most of the time.
Spidey's agility is superior Deadpool's even without the spidey-speed.
You're giving DP the advantage in dexterity? 🤨
Spidey's reflexes are also superior to DP's without the spider-sense (i.e., when he fights Venom).
Intelligence should always play a factor, even against DP. Outsmarting your opponent is just as effective as physically beating him/her.
Spidey is more durable. Deadpool is more resiliant, with a better healing factor than Wolverine's. But his bones can still break and whatnot.
I'll give a serious DP 2/10 against a serious Spider-Man.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
While I believe Deadpool is superior to Wolverine, what makes Wolvie more of a threat is that damn adamantium skeleton. That's what keeps him alive most of the time.Spidey's agility is superior Deadpool's even without the spidey-speed.
Well, in terms of personal ability, DP has near- Spidey agility. However, he's not as fast... and he can't swing as well 😛
Originally posted by MetalmanxYou're giving DP the advantage in dexterity? 🤨
Don't confuse dexterity with agility
Main Entry: dex·ter·i·ty
Pronunciation: dek-'ster-&t-E
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural -ties
1 : readiness and grace in physical activity; especially : skill and ease in using the hands
DP's extremley skilled in using his body, even graceful if you tune out the talking. And, you've already stated his amazing skill in H2H, which comes from his using all his weapons (and his hands ) to maximum effectiveness.
Originally posted by MetalmanxSpidey's reflexes are also superior to DP's without the spider-sense (i.e., when he fights Venom).
Highly debatable
Originally posted by MetalmanxSpidey is more durable. Deadpool is more resiliant, with a better healing factor than Wolverine's. But his bones can still break and whatnot.
You've already said how easily he'll regenerate that. When he's gutted, he comes back extremley fast
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Well, in terms of personal ability, DP has near- Spidey agility. However, he's not as fast... and he can't swing as well 😛Don't confuse dexterity with agility
Main Entry: dex·ter·i·ty
Pronunciation: dek-'ster-&t-E
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural -ties
1 : readiness and grace in physical activity; especially : skill and ease in using the handsDP's extremley skilled in using his body, even graceful if you tune out the talking. And, you've already stated his amazing skill in H2H, which comes from his using all his weapons (and his hands ) to maximum effectiveness.
Highly debatable
You've already said how easily he'll regenerate that. When he's gutted, he comes back extremley fast
Cat took out Deadpool without much of a problem. In fact, he made it look easy. And he is only human, without any enhanced anything. Of course, he is Shang Chi's equal in H2H. He stuck a sword through him, though, and since this is a fight without weapons, I dunno, DP's greater stamina caused by his enhanced healing power might give him a slight edge in H2H against DD.
But DD takes his fights seriously, while DP is as mad as a hatter. I'm too divided on this - I'm gonna make it 5/10 each, thereby making it a draw.
That's my opinion, anyway.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Cat took out Deadpool without much of a problem. In fact, he made it look easy. And he is only human, without any enhanced anything. Of course, he is Shang Chi's equal in H2H. He stuck a sword through him, though, and since this is a fight without weapons, I dunno, DP's greater stamina caused by his enhanced healing power might give him a slight edge in H2H against DD.But DD takes his fights seriously, while DP is as mad as a hatter. I'm too divided on this - I'm gonna make it 5/10 each, thereby making it a draw.
That's my opinion, anyway.
Well, I don't think that fight was completley fair for a number of reasons- mostly that DP wasn't operating at his best. IMO, anyways.
Besides, it's not like he hasn't shown amazing skills in the past.
But that is exactly my argument - DP is too inconsistent. If he operated at peak efficiency ALL OF THE TIME, I would definitely give him the edge. But he doesn't. He could get distracted by the voice in his head, or the colour red, or simply lose interest and decide to go for a beer instead...
While DD, as we all know, is very close to Bruce, in that they are both serious, highly skilled individuals, who can use the slightest distraction to their advantage.
If DP could be serious, I would give him the advantage. But he can't (which is why he is one of my favourite characters) so therefore, I am nullifying his advantage, and making it a draw, 5/10 each.
Again, just my opinion.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
But that is exactly my argument - DP is too inconsistent. If he operated at peak efficiency ALL OF THE TIME, I would definitely give him the edge. But he doesn't. He could get distracted by the voice in his head, or the colour red, or simply lose interest and decide to go for a beer instead...While DD, as we all know, is very close to Bruce, in that they are both serious, highly skilled individuals, who can use the slightest distraction to their advantage.
If DP could be serious, I would give him the advantage. But he can't (which is why he is one of my favourite characters) so therefore, I am nullifying his advantage, and making it a draw, 5/10 each.
Again, just my opinion.
It's a very good point.
I'm curious. Would you change it if DP has access to his weapons?
And, I give DP an edge because, due to forum rules, their supposed to be operating a peak efficiency, which, for DP means talking AND kicking ass ! 🙂
Originally posted by capt it up
DP for the win. What DD gunna do to put him down? pressure point won't work.DP close to DD skills as well.
DP faster stronger and has two swords and granades while DD has only his bill clubs
Actually, they don't have access to weapons in this fight. Oh, and I'm pretty sure DP has more then just swords and grenades 🙂