Darth Traya vs. Sephiroth

Started by Superboy Prime2 pages

Don't know if that was meant to me, but if it was then: Yes I have watched Advent Children and many times. The problem is the force is too big an advantage for Kreia. She can literally predict everything Sephiroth will do and counter it. If we go into the powers of the Dark Side Kreia has a wide selection of attacks that could easily finish the fight in her favor. The only thing Sephiroth has in advantage is youth, but then again with the Force age is a non-factor.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Don't know if that was meant to me, but if it was then: Yes I have watched Advent Children and many times. The problem is the force is too big an advantage for Kreia. She can literally predict everything Sephiroth will do and counter it. If we go into the powers of the Dark Side Kreia has a wide selection of attacks that could easily finish the fight in her favor. The only thing Sephiroth has in advantage is youth, but then again with the Force age is a non-factor.

Like Plo Koon predicted his clones shooting him down? Like Dooku predicted Anakin slicing off his arms and head? Like Obi-Wan predicted Dooku picking him up and throwing him like a rag doll? Like Yoda predicted Palpatine blasting Force Lighting at him throwing him into a wall? Like Maul predicted Obi-Wan jumping over him and slicing him in two with Qui-Gon's lightsaber? Like any of those three Jedi predicting Palpatine killing them with ease? Like Mace predicted Anakin cutting off his arm? Like Revan predicted Malak was about to blast him with another ship? Like Palpatine predicting Vader picking him up and throwing him into the reactor? Like those three Jedi predicting Kreia was about to use instant kill on them? Like Anakin predicted Dooku to cut off his right arm? Like Luke predicting Vader was going to cut off his hand? Like Vader predicting Luke to go into a rage and cut off Vader's hand? Like Anakin predicting that Obi-Wan would cut off his arm and legs? Like Yoda predicted Palpatine would use Force Lighting knocking Yoda's lightsaber from his hand?

Face it the force doesn't help out in predicting anything in combat. Thing is all you have said is Kreia would use the Force to stop Sephiroth.

Like Yoda used the Force to stop Palpatine? Like Palpatine used the Force to stop Mace? I could go on and on.

Fact is Sephiroth is far stronger and faster then Kreia with powerful magic attacks to back him up.

The Force does help in combat. In fact the force is what makes a Jedi so remarkable and dangerous when in battle. The only reason none of those Jedi were able to predict their own doom was because of one single thing: the Dark Side clouded their vision. It has been stated many times during the prequels. In the case of the Sith they were unable to defend themselves for a matter of reasons: Maul did not believe Obi-Wan was a threat when he was hanging for his life. His overconfidence was his end. The same happened to Anakin when Obi-Wan made BBQ slices out of him; his overconfidence and the fact he was blind with rage. Luke during ESB was only an apprentice, hell not even an apprentice. Vader did see it coming, but he simply could not defend himself against Luke's onslaught. I could waste my time and explain every situation but I don't have to, nor do I want to.

There is no fact suggesting Sephiroth is more powerful than Kreia. You're just making that up to make yourself feel good.

Another funny thing is you're mentioning Yoda not stopping Palpatine etc, but need I remind you Palpatine is a Dark Side master who is an equal, if not more powerful than Yoda himself.

In Sephiroth's case he is not a master of the force, nor does he even know about it.

By the way Sephiroth's Masamune would melt the moment it makes contact with any of Kreia's lightsaber. I see no evidence suggesting it won't. You said it was invulnerable, but never gave any proof.

Oh you mean like all those Jedi that were killed by General Grievous or Jango Fett? The fact is Sephiroth is capable of cutting through stone like it was paper. He is capable of bringing down an entire building by his mind.

And lightsabers can cut through anything? Then Vader would have been killed in Empire Strikes Back because Luke got Vader dead on his shoulders and yet it didn't cut through him.

The one thing Lightsabers can't cut through is cortosis.

Oh great Jango killed a no-name Jedi who was busy trying to kill Count Doku. Oh General Grievous killed a group of no-name Jedi who were afraid of him even before they met him. For a more accurate display of Grievous vs Force Masters please check Obi-Wan vs Griveous and Mace vs. Griveous.

Guess who's the one running away for his life in both matches.

Jango did kill a jedi unarmed, and Grievous killed Jedi Council masters too. But these guys were experienced jedi-killing veterans. They are trained to take down jedi, it's not their first day against them... Seprioth have never faced anyone like a jedi, and no jedi Jango or Grievous has ever faced is a match against Traya. She could (possibly) insta-kill (but I seriousley doubt it), she could turn invisible, she could bring him down on his knees (she did that to numerous persons, one without the force cannot counter it, it's that simple), choke him, countless of possiblities....

Yep, force choke. And guess what? A light saber cant cut through stone like paper to. And the reason why luke'ssaber didn't go through Vaders suit is because Luke out almost knwo force behind it when he hit him.I read that in the ESB novel.

Yeah, and because he didn't actually get a good hit, he barley hit him... And Vader's suit was made of some cortosis as well....

Exactly.

Darth Traya, if given all her lightsabers would take this fight with utter ease. I would even say she win against Sephiroth quicker than Darth Nihilus.

Traya is NOT as powerful as Nihilus. As a matter of fact she is the weakest of the Triumvirate.

Dude, Traya has no actual saber skills, as a matter of fact she isn't very good at saber fighting.

If they start two feet from one another Traya gets cut in half.

Never said that Traya was as powerful as Nihilus. Never even implied it. I just can not see Sephiroth stand strong against a force wave and three lightsabers attacking at the same time.

^ I don't see Traya surviving the negative lifestream, a gesture could cover a city instantly, nor can i see traya surviving his TK, or even a speedblitz from Sephiroth

Sephiroth is far faster, far more powerful, far more versatile.

But did Sephiroth obtain the negative lifestream in VII?

All Sephiroth needs to do is swing his sword and kill her. Traya will be defensless.

Going by Kingdom Heart abilities, Sephiroth just teleports behind her and slices her in half, she would not be expecting that if she had no prep time. He should be able to teleport away from three attacking lightsabers, from a choke hold, from a force throw, anything really.

Kingdom HEarts is noncanon, and as such cannot be used.