Magneto: The Debate

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
absolutely not.

House of M worked out fine. but just for mutants. the hate goes both ways. It just as easily could of been Magneto was a human in a House of M type world.

a villain CAN do what is best. he is just a villain cause the X-Men are the heroes. Look at Days of Future Now. He was the savior of mutants in the world he saw coming. And all the mutants knew it. Wolverine admitted that they needed him.

thats only one possible future though isn't it?

He's a villain. A villain who is not one-dimensional, who has a point, and most of the time is not completely wrong, but it's a villain because his means are unacceptable (destroy all mankind), and he puts himself as morally superior to humans, but doing the same as the worse of them. And it's not like he's altruistic, he really wants to rule the mutants. But he's not actually a bad person, who would kill and torture just for the heck of it, like Sabretooth, he honestly believes he's right.

Yeah, he's a villain. ✅

Originally posted by K3VIL
Magneto fights and his reasons are understandable.
We live in a world where having not-white skin is still considered a problem or something wrong from most of the people, some of them are just sufficiently smart to avoid saying it.
Think about a world where from one day to another young and not young people show superhuman powers, phase shifting, superstrength, flight, energy manipulation and so.
Probably the reactions would make Hitler looking like a pacifist.

We also live in a world where targeting innocent people to accomplish your goals is something the bad guys do. We're not talking about a few innocents dying because a military target was hit, we're talking about killing harmless people just to get your point across. Sounds like a villain to me.

Originally posted by Sabretooth
We also live in a world where targeting innocent people to accomplish your goals is something the bad guys do. We're not talking about a few innocents dying because a military target was hit, we're talking about killing harmless people just to get your point across. Sounds like a villain to me.

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Originally posted by Sabretooth
We also live in a world where targeting innocent people to accomplish your goals is something the bad guys do. We're not talking about a few innocents dying because a military target was hit, we're talking about killing harmless people just to get your point across. Sounds like a villain to me.

wow this sounds like some president of some country.... hmm

Originally posted by Paola
wow this sounds like some president of some country.... hmm

pffft. Whatever. Can we please try to keep this on topic before I stupidly say something that's going to get me banned? I'll be happy to discuss our differing points on global politics either privately or in a "random" room if you would like...

nah, I'm not interested in politics nor you get banned or not

point is Magneto is considered a villain by some and a hero or a wise man for others, it depends on how you look at him...

point is Magneto is considered a villain by some and a hero or a wise man for others, it depends on how you look at him...

I'm not saying they are in the same level, because they are not, but the same can be said about Hitler or Osama Bin Laden...

Im not sure what to say really. I really dont blame him for behaving the way he does. See it from his point of view..... his parents were killed by humans who thought his parents were humans.

This is what Magento is thinking, if human beings try to exterminate each other how the **** are they going to let mutants live in peace? That is a valid point.

Imagine your a human living in the Marvel Universe. What would you think? Should you be scared? Yeah you should, even if mutants are not evil depending on what there powers are the chances are they maybe superior to you in alot of ways.

So if your a human living in the marvel universe you had better get yourself some super powers.

Originally posted by Omega-level
I'm not saying they are in the same level, because they are not, but the same can be said about Hitler or Osama Bin Laden...

Speaking of the Nazi, Magneto grew up in Nazi Germany, he saw first hand what it was like to be abused for you birth, be it mutant or Jewish, i dont think Magneto wants or wanted his ppl , the mutants, from becoming that next set of jews, is it wrong to want to protect YOUR ppl at the cost of possible future agressors?

Magneto isn't anymore of a villain then Wolverine is (IMO for the dumb). 😈

causing chaos, attacking folk doing what is not in the majorities interest is rather villianous or not?

It's a interesting question,yes.

But sadly,he is a villain.

He does want what's best for mutants...BUT,he's willing to do anything to get it,including killing innocent people.

Originally posted by PhoenixPhury14
It's a interesting question,yes.

But sadly,he is a villain.

He does want what's best for mutants...BUT,he's willing to do anything to get it,including killing innocent people.

Some people would ldo the same and not be labeled a Villian.

Everyone has different ideas of what a villain is,my opinion is that Magneto may not be as pure evil as some of the other villains,but he could in fact be labled as a villain.

"Some of the worst things immagineable have been done with the best intentions."

-Allen Grant, Jurasic Park III

'sup guys. good to be back

I think it depends on whose point of view you look at it from....I mean in the end it's war between mutants and humanity....there is no right or wrong in war...no heroes or villians...just loss...and death....

So now that I think about it...I may not agree with his ethos but I wouldn't consider him a villian...maybe that's why in Secret Wars he was placed on the heroes side...

Depends on the writer...