I never said they were equal in all those areas. Just that with those Puck can fend him off for awhile. Believe it or not Puck was said to have the same level of reflexes as SPider-Man
Puck
http://www.unfluffybunny.com/crippHB/O-P/tf_puckback.jpg
Venom
http://www.unfluffybunny.com/crippHB/U-V/t_venomback.jpg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
I never said they were equal in all those areas. Just that with those Puck can fend him off for awhile. Believe it or not Puck was said to have the same level of reflexes as SPider-ManPuck
http://www.unfluffybunny.com/crippHB/O-P/tf_puckback.jpgVenom
http://www.unfluffybunny.com/crippHB/U-V/t_venomback.jpg
same level of reflexes? 🤨
so puck has a form of precog apparently?
and doesn't the fact that puck and spiderman aren't on the same levels in those attributes kinda prove that suffocating puck wouldn't prove all that difficult at all?
Originally posted by jinzin
same level of reflexes? 🤨so puck has a form of precog apparently?
and doesn't the fact that puck and spiderman aren't on the same levels in those attributes kinda prove that suffocating puck wouldn't prove all that difficult at all?
Indeed,
No, he can plan multiple battle tactics in less than a second..example:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AlphaFlight16-15.jpg
No, SPider-Man ands Puck's agility are equal or damn near close. Also Puck's fighting skills are vastly better, as well as his durability and experience. Also don't forget Venom's alien suit diminishes Spider-Man's spider-sense
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Spider-Man
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/t_spidermanback.jpg
Puck
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/tf_puckback.jpg
Venom
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/t_venomback.jpg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Indeed,No, he can plan multiple battle tactics in less than a second..example:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AlphaFlight16-15.jpgNo, SPider-Man ands Puck's agility are equal or damn near close. Also Puck's fighting skills are vastly better, as well as his durability and experience. Also don't forget Venom's alien suit diminishes Spider-Man's spider-sense
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Spider-Man
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/t_spidermanback.jpgPuck
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/tf_puckback.jpgVenom
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/t_venomback.jpg
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
no the story is just stupid he absorbs carnage symbote than from nowhere comes another carnage symbiote who uses cleetus cassady as a host
meh! I heard worse Spider-Man stories 😄 , but yeah even if it was non-upgraded Venom no way would he go toe to toe with him as their is to large of a gap in strength.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Nope, I stopped reading comics for about 5 years and only slowly getting the back issues. I have all the Venom mini-series, but I have yet to read Eddie Brock killing himself, which I think is dumb.
Originally posted by King_Mungithen not indeed....
Indeed,No, he can plan multiple battle tactics in less than a second..example:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AlphaFlight16-15.jpg
hell wolverine can make complex battle tactics in his head in compressed timeframes even while feral.. that doesn't prove anything about his reflexes.
Originally posted by King_MungiI'd like to see more proof that their levels in agility are anywhere near equal.
No, SPider-Man ands Puck's agility are equal or damn near close. Also Puck's fighting skills are vastly better, as well as his durability and experience. Also don't forget Venom's alien suit diminishes Spider-Man's spider-sense
as for venom and carnage
venom absorbed the carnage symbiote, carnage got another one from an alternate demension, venom asorbed a sentient peice of himself as well..that's why he's 3X the venom he used to be.
Originally posted by jinzin
then not indeed....
if he doesn'thave precog his reflexes are not on spiderman's level.. spiderman reacts to things before they even take place, if puck can't do that then it really doesn't matter how many battle tactics he can make in a compressed timeframe since that makes no real argument for having REFLEXES anywhere near spidey level..hell wolverine can make complex battle tactics in his head in compressed timeframes even while feral.. that doesn't prove anything about his reflexes.
I'd like to see more proof that their levels in agility are anywhere near equal.
true about fighting skills, I'd say VERY iffy about experience, I'd venture to say spiderman has TIMES over more battles under his belt then puck.
and that's why i brought up scralet spider.. even the spider sense was useless against venom... and that's when it was working...
Spider-Man's senses warn him of immedite danger, most of the time it doesn't tell him what the danger is just that there is danger. Puck has trained himself and thanks to his upgrade to have superhuman reflexes the same category as Spider-Man. Which entails them both to have virtually instaneous reflexes.
Sure it does, that was even classic Puck the scans I showed and the handbooks state he has superhuman reflexes the same as Venom and Spider-Man. Wolverine has enhanced human reflexes not superhuman like Puck.
Anything specific? as it's pretty hard just to show scans of agility
Puck is over 80 years old and has fought in all the major wars, the Spanish Civil War, soilder of fourtune in the 1900's, battled in Maracaibo as well as the Tonkin Gulf and this was all before he became Puck of Alpha Flight. Spider-Man doesn't even come close in experience. The suit dampens it not just shuts it off, and that right there hinders Spider-Man reflexes in battle. Why would Scarlet Spider's spider-sense work when he is a clone of Spider-Man and his doesn't work against Venom?
Originally posted by Soleran
Nothing Puck can do will stop Venom, physical damage is kinda useless. That said Venom could still tendril Puck and because of that I would give the majority to Venom 8/10. Not because of lack of ability or stats for puck mostly because Venom has more tools at his disposal that would hurt Puck.
Co-signed.
Originally posted by Soleran
Nothing Puck can do will stop Venom, physical damage is kinda useless. That said Venom could still tendril Puck and because of that I would give the majority to Venom 8/10. Not because of lack of ability or stats for puck mostly because Venom has more tools at his disposal that would hurt Puck.
Pretty much 😬
I mean Puck is awesome and all, but I can't exactly see him winning this fight
