The Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD Format War

Started by NineCoronas4 pages

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Blu-Ray is much more likely to win for three simple reasons:

A) it's a better disc overall compared to the HD-DVD

B) NINETY PERCENT of all movie studios and film corporations have sided with the Blu-Ray. HD-DVD literally has only 7 while Blu-Ray has over a thousand.

C) It has the PS3 to back it up.

Originally posted by sully_2u
50 GB for Dual Layer Blu-Ray.
Originally posted by Draco69
Blu-Ray is much more likely to win for three simple reasons:
C) It has the PS3 to back it up.

... I'd really like to see a ps3 game take even close to 10gb.. let alone 50...

It would take sometime for the game develops to reach that point. Maybe two to three years after launch. Square-Enix will probably will be the first to do it since they have an impressive track record of doing so.

blu-ray disks have lower quality....so i will be prefering the DVD over it.

Umm. No. That's wrong. Blu-Rays have at least a thousand times better picture quality, literally, than an average DVD.

A DVD can produce a picture of 420p.

A Blu-Ray can produce a picture of 1080p.

That's far, far better than a DVD....

Okay. Obviously alot of people don't know what the difference between a Blu-Ray and a HD-DVD much less a DVD....

So:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6463_7-6462511-2.html?tag=nav

Originally posted by Draco69
It would take sometime for the game develops to reach that point. Maybe two to three years after launch. Square-Enix will probably will be the first to do it since they have an impressive track record of doing so.
I'm solely refering to games that 'dont' bloat their games with FMV.. a la obivion... which only uses what?.. 5gb? and it looks amazing

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I'm solely refering to games that 'dont' bloat their games with FMV.. a la obivion... which only uses what?.. 5gb? and it looks amazing

Well if Oblivion is already stepping up the standard, than a game with higher realtime gameplay standards shouldn't be too far behind.

Most developers appear to be deviating from the 90s FMV-intensive games for real-time since the next-gen consoles are now capable of supporting it.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
... I'd really like to see a ps3 game take even close to 10gb.. let alone 50...

That is what I'm thinking. Why would developers go for the more expensive format when the less expensive format is way more than needed for storage?

The Blu-Ray was meant to be long-term usuage. Like a decade. Technology moves VERY fast. We may only need a percentage of the max storage NOW but once our tech gets better and developers are able to develop more impressive games, the storage will be filled to the brim.

The PS2 worked the same way. At first only a small portion of the disc was used until recent years where the max potential has been used.

People said the very same thing about cartridges and discs because noone could imagine 3-D games.

Originally posted by Draco69
Umm. No. That's wrong. Blu-Rays have at least a thousand times better picture quality, literally, than an average DVD.

A DVD can produce a picture of 420p.

A Blu-Ray can produce a picture of 1080p.

That's far, far better than a DVD....

if dvd can only go up to 480p, then none of the xbox360 games would have 1080i enabled HD. the reason xbox360 did not choose blu-ray player was because the quality it can put into it. read into reasons why. and the 2nd reason is because the thing would have to shoot up to like $500.

Notice I never mentioned anything about "HD-DVD" ...only DVD.....

Originally posted by crazy_shadow
if dvd can only go up to 480p, then none of the xbox360 games would have 1080i enabled HD. the reason xbox360 did not choose blu-ray player was because the quality it can put into it. read into reasons why. and the 2nd reason is because the thing would have to shoot up to like $500.

The reason the Xbox360 can go up to 1080i is because the console will soon have a HD-DVD add-on accessory released to play high-definition movies.

A DVD CANNOT play high-definition. 420p is not considered high-definition. Only 720p, 1080i and finally 1080p (the very best picture quality available; which a Blu Ray will play.

You're completely wrong about the DVD being "superior in quality" to Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. That's like saying a 16-bit Sega console has better graphics than the Sega Dreamcast. You have it completely backwards.

The reason the Xbox360 had very little to do with price. It had to do with the fact that Microsoft chose to side with the HD-DVD. If they chose the Blu-Ray, they would have been slapped with a legion of lawsuits.
More research is suggested....

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Originally posted by crazy_shadow
Notice I never mentioned anything about "HD-DVD" ...only DVD.....

Yeah. And you're completely wrong about it. Research with the Wiki links above. I would suggest reading the Cnet.com link because it's more accessible.

DVD is not superior to Blu-Ray OR HD-DVD. In comparision, the DVD is so far out of it's league it's playing a completely different sport....

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HD-DVD can have 1080p but it is alot harder to put 1080p on it than it is to put it on Blu-Ray

Has anybody thought, in five-ten years or whatever when these become the norm, there's going to be a better resolution than 1080p?

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Has anybody thought, in five-ten years or whatever when these become the norm, there's going to be a better resolution than 1080p?

Yeah, and it will be in the same boat as the HD DVD and Blu Ray. But really, do we need to get higher resolution for movies? 1080i is pretty extreme for me. It's way to clear for movies. Sports I like, but not movies.

But as history shows us, movie formats that go mainstream stick around for decades, no matter how good the new technology is.

Originally posted by Draco69
The reason the Xbox360 can go up to 1080i is because the console will soon have a HD-DVD add-on accessory released to play high-definition movies.

A DVD CANNOT play high-definition. 420p is not considered high-definition. Only 720p, 1080i and finally 1080p (the very best picture quality available; which a Blu Ray will play.

You're completely wrong about the DVD being "superior in quality" to Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. That's like saying a 16-bit Sega console has better graphics than the Sega Dreamcast. You have it completely backwards.

The reason the Xbox360 had very little to do with price. It had to do with the fact that Microsoft chose to side with the HD-DVD. If they chose the Blu-Ray, they would have been slapped with a legion of lawsuits.
More research is suggested....

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Yeah. And you're completely wrong about it. Research with the Wiki links above. I would suggest reading the Cnet.com link because it's more accessible.

DVD is not superior to Blu-Ray OR HD-DVD. In comparision, the DVD is so far out of it's league it's playing a completely different sport....

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i'm not really saying DVD is better....i know HD-dvd and Blu-ray can beat normal DVD.....i'm just telling you that DVD must have the capabilty of 720p and 1080i cause if you read the back of the cases on the games for the 360 it says "HDTV 480p/720p/1080i" . What's the reason in even putting that there if it's not true? i don't think they would put false info on them if DVD couldn't atleast hold 720 por 1080i...

Originally posted by crazy_shadow
i'm not really saying DVD is better....i know HD-dvd and Blu-ray can beat normal DVD.....i'm just telling you that DVD must have the capabilty of 720p and 1080i cause if you read the back of the cases on the games for the 360 it says "HDTV 480p/720p/1080i" . What's the reason in even putting that there if it's not true? i don't think they would put false info on them if DVD couldn't atleast hold 720 por 1080i...

You read the back wrong...

The XBOX 360 can sustain high-definition video for high-definition DVDs in the future.

Which is the HD-DVD.

Which isn't out yet.

They're not lying. They're just not referring to the DVD. You've watched a DVD. If you EVER saw a high-definition video before you would know that the DVD and the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray are completely different animals.

The DVD is NOT capable of 720P OR 1080i. You need to get this in your head. It's not physically possible. It's like trying to put Final Fantasy X or Halo into a Game Boy Advance cartridge. You got it?

ALSO, the instructions refer to the type of television you have. If you have a high-definition television then....

Originally posted by Draco69
You read the back wrong...

The XBOX 360 can sustain high-definition video for high-definition DVDs in the future.

Which is the HD-DVD.

Which isn't out yet.

They're not lying. They're just not referring to the DVD. You've watched a DVD. If you EVER saw a high-definition video before you would know that the DVD and the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray are completely different animals.

The DVD is NOT capable of 720P OR 1080i. You need to get this in your head. It's not physically possible. It's like trying to put Final Fantasy X or Halo into a Game Boy Advance cartridge. You got it?

ALSO, the instructions refer to the type of television you have. If you have a high-definition television then....

I think you two are on different pages.

Draco is saying DVD cant support HD video, which it cant.
Crazy Shadow is saying XBOX's DVD's can hold images that are HD, which it can.

There you go guys, arguement solved.

Originally posted by Draco69
You read the back wrong...

no i didn't it says it right there

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Originally posted by Smasandian
I think you two are on different pages.

Draco is saying DVD cant support HD video, which it cant.
Crazy Shadow is saying XBOX's DVD's can hold images that are HD, which it can.

There you go guys, arguement solved.

hellz yeah xD