Who's more of a badass: Vader or Palpatine?

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Originally posted by overlord
You being his apprentice is sarcasm? Woah.. You're a weird man. It's a lame and dumb joke, not sarcasm. Okay?
By the way, where did you get the information that Sidious told Dooku "hey, don't worry man.. I'll step in if anything goes wrong. Like if you suddenly get your hands cut off and such, you know, silly stuff.."

Dooku could've died without knowing it just like what happened to his hands. How the hell would Sidious know when to step in or be able to?

What are you talking about? Palpatine did step in by telling Anakin "kill him. Kill him now."

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I think towards the end of Labyrinth of Evil, Palpy was in contact with Dooku and told him that, in the event that Dooku was defeated, he'd step in. I can't remember, though.

But Palpatine also said something like Dooku would be able to defeat Anakin also.

Vader.

Vader is one of - if not the - most iconic movie villains of all time, and is widely considered to be the "face" (mask, I suppose. . . ) of Star Wars, as a whole.

In terms of absolute villainy and evil, then Palpatine would be the victor. He is, according to George Lucas, the true and ultimate villain of the Star Wars universe.

Essentially, if I didn't know any better, I'd sooner fight the shriveled old man instead of the nearly seven-foot-obsidian-clad giant.

Then again, I'd get my ass electrocuted. What is it about Star Wars, making the most powerful characters old people (and women)?

I'll never be able to go to my Nursing Home the same again . . .

As for the Count Dooku issue -

1. Rampant Ox, despite times when he argues against logic and canon, is entitled to his opinion, bias, and preferences.

2. Count Dooku wasn't an idiot. On the contrary, he's a cunning, manipulative, intelligent aristocrat. But, yes. In the end, he was a pawn in the service of a more powerful villain.

3. I wouldn't rank Count Dooku as one of the greatest Sith Lords. He was a pawn to the greatest Sith Lords, but that doesn't make him one of. All he did was execute Palpatine's plan, and then got executed himself. 😛

Sidious, then Bane and Kun are the best.

I'd say Sidious, Bane and Sadow are the best.

Sadow represents the pinnacle of influence in regards to the Ancient Sith Lords. He's the best representation of the Sith empires who'd try to take the Republic with bloody war.

Bane... He was the last of the old and the first of the new. 'Nuff said.

Sidious represented the pinnacle of power and influence in Bane's Sith Order. He was the phantom menace and the revenge of the sith.

As for the Count Dooku issue -

1. Rampant Ox, despite times when he argues against logic and canon, is entitled to his opinion, bias, and preferences.

I agree entirely and i was just having fun with him, but truly i do get annoyed at how he goes into any thread and just starts spouting stuff bout Count Dooku the title is "Who's more of a badass: Vader or Palpatine?" nothing to do with Dooku and nobody mentioned him and then in comes Rampant and starts talking about how SW is Dooku...

2. Count Dooku wasn't an idiot.

On the contrary, he's a cunning, manipulative, intelligent aristocrat. But, yes. In the end, he was a pawn in the service of a more powerful villain.

3. I wouldn't rank Count Dooku as one of the greatest Sith Lords. He was a pawn to the greatest Sith Lords, but that doesn't make him one of. All he did was execute Palpatine's plan, and then got executed himself. 😛

Agreed, Agreed, Agreed 😱 : He was a great jedi but less as a sith but i fully agree with everything you just said because everything that you thought i said and contested, i didn't say so the were just valid points. so good debate and i believe we have come to an agreement:

Dooku was majorly powerful but the most powerful, he had skills in goverment, politics and the sith arts but was still a pawn in the end.
"He was a pawn to the greatest Sith Lords, but that doesn't make him one of. All he did was execute Palpatine's plan, and then got executed himself."
and that yes, he should have switched his master's insurance to geico.

and that rampant is obsessed and should not intrude with dooku stuff in forums that have nothing to do with him.

peace out...

Originally posted by TheBalance
I agree entirely and i was just having fun with him, but truly i do get annoyed at how he goes into any thread and just starts spouting stuff bout Count Dooku the title is "Who's more of a badass: Vader or Palpatine?" nothing to do with Dooku and nobody mentioned him and then in comes Rampant and starts talking about how SW is Dooku...

Hahaha. Sorry bout that. I got a bit carried away...

Originally posted by Captain REX
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I think towards the end of Labyrinth of Evil, Palpy was in contact with Dooku and told him that, in the event that Dooku was defeated, he'd step in. I can't remember, though.

Dooku: "DERRRR... OKAY!!!"

Originally posted by overlord
Sidious: "Dooku.. In the unlikely event that your head or hands fly off, I will break free and step in, trust me"

Dooku: "DERRRR... OKAY!!!"

Exactly. But not quite that primitive. And Dooku doesnt yell.

LOLZ!!! TEH FUNNY!!! If Dooku would nearly be dead, then Sidious would come and rescue him?!! If you lose a lightsaber duel, you are dead most of the time! This is absurd, it can't be true!
I want the quote from the book! This is too unbelievable!

I say Sidious. Vader had good in him.

ESB Vader was the badass. All the other Vaders were either ANH "sorta bad," or overshadowed by Palpatine or his own redemption in ROTJ.