Why didn't the Nabooians shoot Darth Maul dead?

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Who cares if he's black or red? What does this have to do with fighting?

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Count Kent
Actually he was telekenetically pushing the bolts way.

No he wasn't, there was no rebound of the bolts, they simply impacted on his artificial hand (his glove was smoking) and were ignored as his prosthetic did not have the same amount of sensory feedback as one with synthetic flesh (like Luke's artificial hand did) (when Luke was shot in the hand it only hurt as the synthetic flesh gave sensory feedback of damage, it didn't actually stop the hand from working, or cripple Luke with pain, as a shot to an organic limb would)

Darth Kreiger Senior Member
Originally posted by kamikz
Uh...I wasn't talking about Maul parrying with his hand, I just said that he defeated alot of other, more experienced thugs in the black sun and defeated them damn fast, these guys would not pose as a problem. I know Maul cannot deflect with his hands.

I was refering to another post about his Hand, but their skill does not matter, guards are 15 feet away, his Lightsaber isn't ready, doubtful that he can deflect with his hand as he isn't a Master Sith really, more of a Padawan type. They must be pretty skilled to be the Bodyguards of a leader, like Secret Service.

kamikz A.I.M Mercenary

Maul is more than capable of dodgin shots without his saber, and we are talking seconds here. He could easily avoid shots, or jump behind them before they would realise. He could also use the force to push them all away....

http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=9&f=10&name=Darth_Maul_1_of_4

jollyjim311 Scruffy Nerf Herder

They all would have died. Someone needs to read the Maul comics. Maul killed a crapload of great mercenaries. Qui Gon had fought his for a few seconds on Tattoine and knew the normal guards would be outclassed by the likes of Maul. Also, time was of the essence and risking the queen didn't seem like a bright idea.

kamikz A.I.M Mercenary

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Sin Harvest Sonic Speed

Darth Maul would have looked up and all would have blasted him. Maul would say "Oh shi---" and would have died. His guard wasn't up or anything.

jollyjim311 Scruffy Nerf Herder

His guard wasn't up because he knew they wouldn't shoot. If there was any debate about it, they'd all be dead.

http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=18&f=12&name=Darth_Maul_3_of_4 ... that and a helluva lot more, without a scratch. He could rip the Naboo volunteer guards apart.

kamikz A.I.M Mercenary

Yup, in that comic they had even surrounded him, they were still no match for him. And as the leaders said, "it didn't even slow him down a bit".

If they shot, he would have dodged it. Also, neither had their guns pointed at him, he would have sensed if they would point their guns at him, he would flip and turn his saber on and killed most of them....

Jam-Jul_Lison Dark Jedi Master

It would not have taken Maul long to use the force to pull his lightsaber out. Also I think he would have have sensed them getting ready to pull the trigger and used the force to pull the guns out of their hands. It may not have looked like his guard was up but I am sure it was. Deception is the way of the Sith.

As for vader blocking Han's blaster fire. He used the force to more or less absorb and dissapate most of the energy though a little bit did hit his love. He he had not used the force there his hand would have been blown to bits. lol

Imaginary blinded
Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
He he had not used the force there his hand would have been blown to bits. lol

Not really, his armour is good enough to withstand a lightsaber blow, so a blaster would have no effect....and it didnt.

Jam-Jul_Lison Dark Jedi Master

his his armor is strong enough to withstand a lightsaber blow then how come his hand got cut off.

Imaginary blinded

I know, I probably exaggerated a bit. But the energy required from a single laser shot is minimal compared to a lightsaber slash. Theres no way he would have had it 'blown to bits'. Luke's hand was intact after a direct hit, Im sure Vader had better technology put in to protect him.

Wonder why the Emperor didnt just cover him in cortosis 😛 Not like he couldnt afford it...

Jam-Jul_Lison Dark Jedi Master

it would have damaged it some at least. lol. vader's skill with the force should not be underestimated. lol.

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
As for vader blocking Han's blaster fire. He used the force to more or less absorb and dissapate most of the energy though a little bit did hit his love. He he had not used the force there his hand would have been blown to bits. lol

As I said above, Han's blaster bolt impacted on an artificial limb, which had minimal sensory feedback. Luke took a blaster bolt to his artificial hand (being caught totally off guard, and proving once more how unskilled he, but that's another debate 😉 ) and it was not 'blown to bits'. All that happened was the synthetic skin was burned away.

Jam-Jul_Lison Dark Jedi Master

It has even been mentioned in some of the books that Vader has some skill in absorbing energy. Heck he had to have been able to tolerate Palpatine's force lighting from Palpatine when he lifted him up into the air to throw him down that shaft. For one thing his body was mostly mechanicle meaning electricity would cause even more hard to him then normal from it. So to be able to remain standing long enough to hurl him over the edge showed he some skill in that.

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
It has even been mentioned in some of the books that Vader has some skill in absorbing energy.

That's true, but in the films, such talents were never displayed. Luke did not absorb the energy of the bolt that hit his artificial hand (he was taken completely by surprize), and it was not damaged enough to prevent it functioning properly. Vader's hands did not have the synthetic flesh coverings, and a much more rudimentary sense of touch, so a blaster bolt to one would have not been painfull, and certainly not damaging.

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
It has even been mentioned in some of the books that Vader has some skill in absorbing energy. Heck he had to have been able to tolerate Palpatine's force lighting from Palpatine when he lifted him up into the air to throw him down that shaft.

On the contrary, in RoDV Palpatine said that he could kill Vader with his Force Lightning, but Vader was uncowed by the thread. As it was, in RotJ, it completely fried the electronics of his respirator, so he clearly was not channelling the energy in any way.

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
For one thing his body was mostly mechanicle

It wasn't though. Just his forearms, knees and shins and then implants for hearing and the connections for his respirator. The rest was still organic.

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
So to be able to remain standing long enough to hurl him over the edge showed he some skill in that.

I agree, but I think it was more determination and strength of will than Force ability.

Jam-Jul_Lison Dark Jedi Master

i never said his stuff did not end up competly fried. I am saying he managed to absorb it enough to keep it from frying his systems right away. My guess he stopped absorbing it as he was was actualy throwing him over the edge. As for sheer phycical strength and determination, That is a possibility. My guess it is was a combination of both. Also as for his hand blocking those blaster bolts. Remember Luke only got shot in the hand once. Vader on the other hand took several shots to the hand. Either his could actualy block the bolts and not have his hand damaged or he absorbed. We could argue this point for hours but it would be a waste of time. We will just have to agree to disagree then. As this is not a thread for that. It is a Maul thread. lol.

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
i never said his stuff did not end up competly fried. I am saying he managed to absorb it enough to keep it from frying his systems right away. My guess he stopped absorbing it as he was was actualy throwing him over the edge.

I just don't think he was absorbing it at all (his breathing was still affected when he was lifting Palpatine)

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
As for sheer phycical strength and determination, That is a possibility.

Indeed, people are capable of incredible feats of physical endurance when the situation calls for it. That was one of those situations.

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
Also as for his hand blocking those blaster bolts. Remember Luke only got shot in the hand once. Vader on the other hand took several shots to the hand. Either his could actualy block the bolts and not have his hand damaged or he absorbed.

That's true, he did take two shots rather than just one, however, I doubt that would make much difference to the damage that would occur, (as the damage to Luke's hand was entirely cosmetic, so I stand by my assertion that he was able to block them without damage.

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
We could argue this point for hours but it would be a waste of time. We will just have to agree to disagree then. As this is not a thread for that. It is a Maul thread. lol.

Indeed it is, but you said that Vader could have blocked the blaster bolts with his hands (as a Force Power exhibited by Vader) (and Count Kent said he was telekinetically pushing the bolts away) and I'm just pointing out that Vader wasn't using a Force Power to do so, so Maul would be unable to do so (and didn't have artificial hands to use to block them either) 🙂

Jam-Jul_Lison Dark Jedi Master

the idea of pushing blaster bolts away seems like it would be extremely hard to do for any force user. Guiding it's direction it is heading is one thing. Completly pushing it back in the opposite direction just sounds to hard for any force user to do. I am sure it is possible but it would be hard. It would be easier to lift an X-Wing in the air with the force then do that. lol