Rogue vs superman (with a twist)

Originally posted by Soljer
See..I don't understand you guys. The Iceman vs. Superman debate went on for PAGES. However, Rogue with Iceman's powers (plus a whole ****ing truck load of others) is immediately dismissed?

Imagine Rogue using iceman's powers to inhabit every water molecule on earth, and then using colossus' powers to turn them all into organic steel. Haha.

Pointless, but imagine - an ocean of steel vs. the man of steel. I think we can see who wins 😉.

Seriously though? This is the same case as the Iceman vs. Superman thread. I don't see how he would keep her down. Even if Superman destroyed her metal form and overloaded Wolverine's healing factor. Her consciousness could just shift to some other molecule of water on the planet. Any (or every, if she wished).

So...basically, this is Iceman with a few extra powers vs. Superman.

Oh, and since Iceman can still control HIS powers while in his 'vapor' form, could Rogue still use Polaris'? What about Havoks? Or, along the lines of the joke I made earlier, what about colossus'? How would that work?

This just brings up a whole bucket of confusion :-/.

Are we sure Rogue can use Iceman's powers in that way? Keep in mind, he is an Omega, she is an Alpha (as far as I know). Theoretically, I would assume that she would not be able to reach Iceman's full, Omega potential.

Has Rogue ever been shown to absorb an Omega's power (and use it to the fullest extent)?

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Are we sure Rogue can use Iceman's powers in that way? Keep in mind, he is an Omega, she is an Alpha (as far as I know). Theoretically, I would assume that she would not be able to reach Iceman's full, Omega potential.

Has Rogue ever been shown to absorb an Omega's power (and use it to the fullest extent)?

Hmm...interesting question, but if Rogue can steal other mutants mutations via their DNA then what's stopping her from stealing their Omega Potential via their DNA?

Also when Emma Frost occupied Icemans body she used it in ways he would have never thought of.(Emma is just creative that way) Problem is I'm not sure if Rogue is as creative as Emma with her abilities.

And since current Iceman lost his secondary mutation, Rogue will have to ice up during the match. And before she would be able to do that Supes would blitz her.

If Rogue was given a chance to ice up I say she could take it.

this is a good fight but superman win this. woud be a good fight but to my knowladge the only thing that can hurt superman is magic and anything that origanly came from his home planet (kryptonite..ect)

she can only have one power at a time.

Originally posted by diabloman
she can only have one power at a time.

That is awfully ignorant of you to say. If he says the Rogue has all these peoples powers, he is probably referring to that else-worlds (or whatever) Rogue that could recall the powers of the past people.

And it is true, that she would need to turn into her ice form first, giving Superman the speedblitz. Assuming she could start in an organic-steel-ice-form, I think she could win it, through the Iceman-god-technique 🙂.

She'd probably cry out in pain from all those memories/personalities.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
She'd probably cry out in pain from all those memories/personalities.

how can she have collosuss power, its been said that he is completey immune to her power?

She gets his power but he isn't weakned and won't die if she holds on to him

Originally posted by Soljer
That is awfully ignorant of you to say. If he says the Rogue has all these peoples powers, he is probably referring to that else-worlds (or whatever) Rogue that could recall the powers of the past people.

And it is true, that she would need to turn into her ice form first, giving Superman the speedblitz. Assuming she could start in an organic-steel-ice-form, I think she could win it, through the Iceman-god-technique 🙂.

Originally posted by diabloman
its not ignorant its true. she cant touch a 100 guys and have all there powers at the same time. she touchs iceman ok then shes got his powers for awhile if she touches wolvie then byby ice powers now shes got wolvies healing factor. it goes like that pal

No, it IS ignorant, because for this fight it was assumed that she had ALL of their powers. Just like that other-world's Rogue who could recall any power of any being she ever touched. Read the thread.

Anyways, more on the topic. If she used Iceman's WORLD-consciousness power, could she also absorb the power of EVERYONE on the planet simultaneously? Assuming she didn't go insane from the memories, she would win with ease. Nearly everyone on earth has water molecules in them, even the VERY powerful beings, so, assuming she inhabited it all at once, would she be able to use her power, while being in contact with EVERYONE on the planet, to use EVERYONE'S power? You can't tell me that she wouldn't then OBLITERATE superman.

Of course, this still relies on Superman not using a speedblitz before she can even think about 'icing up.'

Originally posted by Soljer
No, it IS ignorant, because for this fight it was assumed that she had ALL of their powers. Just like that other-world's Rogue who could recall any power of any being she ever touched. Read the thread.

Anyways, more on the topic. If she used Iceman's WORLD-consciousness power, could she also absorb the power of EVERYONE on the planet simultaneously? Assuming she didn't go insane from the memories, she would win with ease. Nearly everyone on earth has water molecules in them, even the VERY powerful beings, so, assuming she inhabited it all at once, would she be able to use her power, while being in contact with EVERYONE on the planet, to use EVERYONE'S power? You can't tell me that she wouldn't then OBLITERATE superman.

Of course, this still relies on Superman not using a speedblitz before she can even think about 'icing up.'

Hahaha, you're pretty sad, Diabloman. I give up on explaining ANYTHING to you.

Originally posted by Soljer
Hahaha, you're pretty sad, Diabloman. I give up on explaining ANYTHING to you.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Hmm...interesting question, but if Rogue can steal other mutants mutations via their DNA then what's stopping her from stealing their Omega Potential via their DNA?

Also when Emma Frost occupied Icemans body she used it in ways he would have never thought of.(Emma is just creative that way) Problem is I'm not sure if Rogue is as creative as Emma with her abilities.

And since current Iceman lost his secondary mutation, Rogue will have to ice up during the match. And before she would be able to do that Supes would blitz her.

If Rogue was given a chance to ice up I say she could take it.

I'm not so sure Omega potential can be transferred biologically, though. I thought it was beyond that, if you know what I'm saying.

Supes still has her, though. Even if she was able to start out in an organic steel state, she would get crushed by the man.

Originally posted by diabloman
your just hard headed. you dont like to get info from others. you think you know it all then everyone else in the world

ok maybe i can say it better um

in this tread she can have all those powers at once weather she can for real or not is a diffrent argument. so here the rules say she can

Originally posted by diabloman
your just hard headed. you dont like to get info from others. you think you know it all then everyone else in the world

Originally posted by diabloman
again SHE CANT HAVE MORE THAN 1 POWER AT A TIME. SHE TOUCHES SOMONE ELSE SHE SWITCHES TO THEM FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

Umm...no...Rogue is able to use more then one power at a time. And is able to use all those powers at the same time.(Have you not seen the X-Men preview?) A Combination between Emma Frost and Cyclops.
http://media.comics.ign.com/media/740/740880/img_3677769.html

And it doesn't have to last for a short period of time, if she holds on long enough she can absorb the power template permanently.

As for the Omega Mutant thing...you have to have a certain type of mutation (DNA) to be classified as an Omega Mutant. Being an Omega mutant means that you have a special type of mutation...so it's more then likely that by absorbing their DNA she absorbs their Omeganess.

If she was able to start off in ice form with organic steel around that she can take this.

Damn what?