Heralds v JLA PtII

Originally posted by Soleran
Don't like it I guess, was that a speed blitz right in YOUR discussion? Not to mention all I wanted to prove is that Heralds "thought" process is MUCH MUCH faster then humans and as such even if they don't move can act faster and their manipulation skills put to use.

How can you even call that JLA line-up "human?" None of them are human in any stretch of the imagination. Silver Surfer never shows combat speed that is three hundred times the speed of light like his travelling speed. He hardly EVER speed blitzes, and when he went all out against Warrior Madness Thor he got his ass kicked. Please stop flaunting a false perception of his character. Team A gets the majority.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So a failed attempt with FLIGHT Speed against a slow moving object is your argument? 😆

Its not my argument, its my fact. Thanos with the glove is a far cry from laughing at a speed blitz seeing as what the gauntlet allows the user to do.

More importantly, Heralds are jobbers. JLA would win simply because writers are ass with their powers. Like I said if everyone of the JLA were given the mass of a sun as fast as heralds can function guess what, they are stopped and possible dead.

Originally posted by Soleran
Its not my argument, its my fact. Thanos with the glove is a far cry from laughing at a speed blitz seeing as what the gauntlet allows the user to do.

More importantly, Heralds are jobbers. JLA would win simply because writers are ass with their powers. Like I said if everyone of the JLA were given the mass of a sun as fast as heralds can function guess what, they are stopped and possible dead.

So EVERY single showing of the heralds is PIS? 😑 Come on now Soleran, I though you could do better than that.

Did I say every single showing of heralds is PIS, no of course not. Thats you putting words somewhere. What I am saying is that given the powers of Heralds and what they are suppoesd to do the JLA would lose plain and simple.

Its the writers that simplify heralds to tanking not their powersets.

Originally posted by Soleran
Its not my argument, its my fact. Thanos with the glove is a far cry from laughing at a speed blitz seeing as what the gauntlet allows the user to do.

More importantly, Heralds are jobbers. JLA would win simply because writers are ass with their powers. Like I said if everyone of the JLA were given the mass of a sun as fast as heralds can function guess what, they are stopped and possible dead.

So Captain America was moving at far beyond light speed to dodge Thanos attacks?

Originally posted by newjak86
Oh the whole whos faster on the draw speed blitz. I ilke it.

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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So Captain America was moving at far beyond light speed to dodge Thanos attacks?

Is that what you interpreted, I am curious.

Originally posted by Soleran
Is that what you interpreted, I am curious.

I'm more curious about your interpretation.

Then again, you are using flight speed as a blitzs...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I'm more curious about your interpretation.

Then again, you are using flight speed as a blitzs...

Lets not confuse interpretation for fact, SS speed was mentioned. Captain America didn't have a speed labeled. So once again I ask you did it say CA speed blitzed, no, so lets not confuse the 2 shall we.

By the way flight speed is a blitz, why on earth would you even attempt to confuse it?

Once again, I don't think you realize the difference between flight speed and combat speed. THIS is flight speed.

Originally posted by leonidas
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SO WHAT, so is it fair to say that the ability to move at a specific speed would augments one reflex's to react to said speed?

This is attack/combat speed.

Originally posted by Soleran
Lets not confuse interpretation for fact, SS speed was mentioned. Captain America didn't have a speed labeled. So once again I ask you did it say CA speed blitzed, no, so lets not confuse the 2 shall we.

By the way flight speed is a blitz, why on earth would you even attempt to confuse it?

I never said that CA speed blitzed either... read it again...

You want to win a debate so badly that you are nitpicking at whatever you can.

Do you believe that heralds are the only ones that aren't written to "full potential?"

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I never said that CA speed blitzed either... read it again...

You want to win a debate so badly that you are nitpicking at whatever you can.

Do you believe that heralds are the only ones that aren't written to "full potential?"

He is nitpicking. ✅

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I never said that CA speed blitzed either... read it again...

You want to win a debate so badly that you are nitpicking at whatever you can.

Do you believe that heralds are the only ones that aren't written to "full potential?"

I am bringing up obvious points which you are derailing, you have yet to answer the question directly.

What I am saying about Heralds is that they have less comic paper used then the JLA. So I am not saying the JLA that are written to full potential, just that the Heralds written at full form take the fight.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You mean when he flies through the ships? Any GL, MM, Superman, WW, etc can do that... that was no speed blitz.

I hope the "speed blitz" you are talking about isn't where SS tried grabbing the Gauntlet off Thanos SLOW MOVING arm and missed anyway. 😆

Originally posted by Accel
So... just because other people could pull it off, that makes it not a speedblitze? I don't really get that logic. Supes, WW, and MM can and have pulled off speedblitzes as well as low-level speedsters and streets-levelers like Spider-Man and Quicksilver. How fast a speedblitz actually is depends on the speed of the character pulling it off.

Exactly, but has SS done it in battle?

There are over 30 years of opportunity.

My point was that all of those can fly through ships like that.

Team A takes the majority and Team B doesn't.

Originally posted by Soleran
I am bringing up obvious points which you are derailing, you have yet to answer the question directly.

What I am saying about Heralds is that they have less comic paper used then the JLA. So I am not saying the JLA that are written to full potential, just that the Heralds written at full form take the fight.

And I am showing that you haven't proven anything.

Now you are going by "on paper"