DC vs. Marvel

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I hate seeing stupid comments such as this one. Immediately destroyed by Surfer? Won't happen in ANY reality.

Could SS get a win? He could after an exhausting battle for him.

Erm..I don't mean in a physically confrontation, I mean....Surfer can (has?) just drained his yellow-sun radiation, or produce kryptonite raditation. I'm sorry if you misinterpreted me, but the Surfer's matter manipulation/creation powers would end Superman.

Originally posted by Psyquis52
Bottom line, the most dangerous person in this line up isn't Silver Surfer at all. Morg before he even had the WOL beat Silver Surfer and could have killed him with very little effort.

Now I can assume that any GL is on a similar power level to heralds but you'll have to work with me on the fact that SS is more experienced with his powers. Not to mention that but I honestly believe he's faster and has more durability. Even without force fields and what not SS can take damage on a Colossus level and his strength level is just as high.

Morg on the other hand is a death sentence for any of the DC crew. Seriously.

Gladiator is easily a match for any one of the Marvel and I know I don't have to list Thor and BRB's capabilty. I shouldn't have to defend them. You really should give me some credit for assuming Marvel wouldn't win by a lot.

Yes, however Morg is a brawler with a lot of power. He doesn't have the speed factor. GL's are experienced enough with their powers to easily be able to compete with Silver Surfer. There is nothing that he can do that they can't do. Faster? Maybe. However, Kyle flew from one end of the universe to the other in under a day. So if he is faster (I doubt it), it is not by so much that he would make them look like fools.

Gladiator is powerful, but so are the characters on the DC line-up. Thor and Beta Ray Bill are powerful as well, but anyone would give those guys trouble. Oh yeah, btw you are a SAINT for not saying that Marvel wins by so much. 😛

I don't want you to misunderstand me, I'm not saying that Marvel DESTROYS DC, I'm just saying that I believe they would manage the majority. Not by a lot, but at least a small majority.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes, however Morg is a brawler with a lot of power. He doesn't have the speed factor. GL's are experienced enough with their powers to easily be able to compete with Silver Surfer. There is nothing that he can do that they can't do. Faster? Maybe. However, Kyle flew from one end of the universe to the other in under a day. So if he is faster (I doubt it), it is not by so much that he would make them look like fools.

Gladiator is powerful, but so are the characters on the DC line-up. Thor and Beta Ray Bill are powerful as well, but anyone would give those guys trouble. Oh yeah, btw you are a SAINT for not saying that Marvel wins by so much. 😛

Why thank you batdude. As usual, you have posted a very interesting fight that we will have many a friendly engagement over. I like that. 😄 You are a genius.

Back on subject. Morg out-maneuvered SS in there first encounter. He was suprisingly fast and should be considered as fast as SS.
Morg is also more than just a brawler. He used his powers in creative ways to beat SS, Defensively and Offensively; and that was before WOL.

I personally find current Superman above Pre-Crisis Supes. I mean, besides sneezing a solar system away, what has Pre-Crisis Supes done?

Didn't current Supes help lift the Spectre (weight of the universe) and fly faster than Pre-Crisis Supes was ever shown to fly (20X lightspeed)?

Originally posted by Psyquis52
Why thank you batdude. As usual, you have posted a very interesting fight that we will have many a friendly engagement over. I like that. 😄 You are a genius.

Why thank you! 😄

Originally posted by Psyquis52
Back on subject. Morg out-maneuvered SS in there first encounter. He was suprisingly fast and should be considered as fast as SS.
Morg is also more than just a brawler. He used his powers in creative ways to beat SS, Defensively and Offensively; and that was before WOL.

Yes, however consitant feats of him would suggest that he likes to have a purely physical fight with an opponent. He never utilizes his attack speed. Btw, he is not as fast as Silver Sufer.

Originally posted by Accel
I personally find current Superman above Pre-Crisis Supes. I mean, besides sneezing a solar system away, what has Pre-Crisis Supes done?

Didn't current Supes help lift the Spectre (weight of the universe) and fly faster than Pre-Crisis Supes was ever shown to fly (20X lightspeed)?

Originally posted by Accel
I personally find current Superman above Pre-Crisis Supes. I mean, besides sneezing a solar system away, what has Pre-Crisis Supes done?

Didn't current Supes help lift the Spectre (weight of the universe) and fly faster than Pre-Crisis Supes was ever shown to fly (20X lightspeed)?

BLASPHEMER!!!!!! PC Superman has closed a gigantic black hole when it was open. The Post-Crisis version of that feat he held it closed before it had a chance to open. However, in the Pre-Crisis case, the black hole was already open and he closed it. He has also flown through dimensions before like it was nothing. Pretty much anything he did was just damn uber and completely unexpected.

Originally posted by batdude123
Why thank you! 😄

Yes, however consitant feats of him would suggest that he likes to have a purely physical fight with an opponent. He never utilizes his attack speed. Btw, he is not as fast as Silver Sufer.

Originally posted by Accel
I personally find current Superman above Pre-Crisis Supes. I mean, besides sneezing a solar system away, what has Pre-Crisis Supes done?

Didn't current Supes help lift the Spectre (weight of the universe) and fly faster than Pre-Crisis Supes was ever shown to fly (20X lightspeed)?

He's repaired all of time with his fists.

Things like making sense didn't matter.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Like Flash, Surfer's speed has to be dumbed down in comics for a interesting story.

Same as a GL. 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
BLASPHEMER!!!!!! PC Superman has closed a gigantic black hole when it was open. The Post-Crisis version of that feat he held it closed before it had a chance to open. However, in the Pre-Crisis case, the black hole was already open and he closed it. He has also flown through dimensions before like it was nothing. Pretty much anything he did was just damn uber and completely unexpected.

Post crisis Supes contained the gravity of a miniature black hole with his bioaura (and a little help from GL.) It was already active when he grabbed it.

Originally posted by batdude123
Same as a GL. 😉

GL's have FTL flight speed, not reflexive speed.

Originally posted by Soljer
Erm..I don't mean in a physically confrontation, I mean....Surfer can (has?) just drained his yellow-sun radiation, or produce kryptonite raditation. I'm sorry if you misinterpreted me, but the Surfer's matter manipulation/creation powers would end Superman.

It's been debated before. SS could creatively use that against Superman. Then again Supes could also pull T-vo on him and negate a lot of his power.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
GL's have FTL flight speed, not reflexive speed.

The ring more than makes up for that. It gives the user automated defenses along with heightened awareness. It can do stuff without the user having to realize it.

Originally posted by batdude123
Why thank you! 😄

Yes, however consitant feats of him would suggest that he likes to have a purely physical fight with an opponent. He never utilizes his attack speed. Btw, he is not as fast as Silver Sufer.

However we should also compare those feats with battle tactics one would use against said opponents.

For instance: where is Silver Surfer most vulnerable? His close range game. Therefore, you would want to take the fight up close. Also Terrax has a scary close range game with his axe. It's natural to want to disarm him of his axe that way he loses confidence, steam, and the majority of his power.

So Morg comes across that way because the majority of his opponents are vulnerable to a close range fight.

He would more than likely try to close the gap on the GL's as well and could probably do it effectively.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He's repaired all of time with his fists.

Things like making sense didn't matter.

Originally posted by Psyquis52
However we should also compare those feats with battle tactics one would use against said opponents.

For instance: where is Silver Surfer most vulnerable? His close range game. Therefore, you would want to take the fight up close. Also Terrax has a scary close range game with his axe. It's natural to want to disarm him of his axe that way he loses confidence, steam, and the majority of his power.

So Morg comes across that way because the majority of his opponents are vulnerable to a close range fight.

He would more than likely try to close the gap on the GL's as well and could probably do it effectively.

And Hal or Kyle would be more than ready to take on Morg. They are more versatile than him.

Originally posted by batdude123
And Hal or Kyle would be more than ready to take on Morg. They are more versatile than him.

😆 That's ridiculous. Is there anyone the GL's aren't more versatile than?

That's kind of like saying water is wet.

It doesn't matter if they're more versatile. Morg is more vicious. He won't relent. He will kill them if he gets the chance.

Originally posted by Psyquis52
😆 That's ridiculous. Is there anyone the GL's aren't more versatile than?

That's kind of like saying water is wet.

It doesn't matter if they're more versatile. Morg is more vicious. He won't relent. He will kill them if he gets the chance.

You don't think that the GLs haven't taken on relentless types before? They are more powerful than you give them credit for.