Originally posted by leonidasThe character is Kid Devil a new member of the Titans OYL. The words are the first verse of the poem on the gates of hell in Dante's Inferno. And the flare is courtesy of Adobe. 😄
dude, that is one of the creepiest sigs ever! who is that and remind me not to piss it off . . .fear
nice . . .
i'm disappointed i didn't remember the poem. been a while though since i read divine comedy. managed to get through inferno and purgatorio, but only made it about half way through paradiso . . . 🙁
the medieval references and metaphors finally caught up to me in that section. i doubt many medieval italians could have made sense of most of teh metaphors!! 😬 by far the most difficult thing i've read. made shakespeare look like dick and jane.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
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Like that Wild Child Sabertooth argument. Didn't you say that Wild Child could give Creed a close fight because had fought Sabertooth for three days in the AOA?
Or that the scan of Wild Child killing a Dare Devil clone during the infinity war proved his fighting skills because the clones were the same as the originals?
Didn't you say that the Magus himself said that they were perfect copies?
Aern't you the one who says that Zarathos and Culan Garth(?) were Dr.Strange Level sorcerers?
Originally posted by Warmonger
Like that Wild Child Sabertooth argument. Didn't you say that Wild Child could give Creed a close fight because had fought Sabertooth for three days in the AOA?Or that the scan of Wild Child killing a Dare Devil clone during the infinity war proved his fighting skills because the clones were the same as the originals?
Didn't you say that the Magus himself said that they were perfect copies?
Aern't you the one who says that Zarathos and Culan Garth(?) were Dr.Strange Level sorcerers?
No I said a non-jobbing Weapon Omega could give him a good fight as he was trained by the best in the world. I didn't even say he would win, just give him a fight.
Which is true and stated multiple times they were exact copies of the originals. Not just Magnus, but the heroes themselves as they were even defeated by their clones.
Kulan Gath is Dr.Strange level and I didn't say Zarathos was
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Really you consider that exagerations? 😕
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No I said a non-jobbing Weapon Omega could give him a good fight as he was trained by the best in the world. I didn't even say he would win, just give him a fight.Which is true and stated multiple times they were exact copies of the originals. Not just Magnus, but the heroes themselves as they were even defeated by their clones.
Kulan Gath is Dr.Strange level and I didn't say Zarathos was
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Really you consider that exagerations? 😕
So you didn't say that because Wild Child fought Sabertooth for three days in the AOA that he would give creed a good fight?
No its not true. The Magus didn't say that at anytime during the Infinity War. Not only that but the Narrortor says "though they posess nowhere near the fighting spirit of the originals, sheer numbers tell" Dare Devil beat the piss out of his own clone like twice in the space of one fight while whooping on Multiple Man's clone. The cloens were pretty much fodder.
Kulan Gath is Dr. Strange level? Come, come now. Do you think Dr. Strange would have gotten his throne jacked by Ghost Rider. Strange banishes and defeats deific beings all of the time. Do you think that someone who was "Dr. Strange Level" couldn't handle an amped up Ghost Rider or Tanaraq?
Originally posted by King_MungiWild Child was trained by Wolverine, Captrain America, Nick Fury, Nemesis, Secret Empire, Department H & K, Gamma/ALpha/Omega Flight, Puck, Weapon X, X-Factor and various others we don't know the full list of. He isn't outmatched here as Wild Child in AoA who wasn't even close to be half of skilled as 616 battled Sabertooth to a standstill for three straight bloody days. I'm not saying Weapon Omega wins or loses, but he is no way simply outclassed here.
Originally posted by Warmonger
So you didn't say that because Wild Child fought Sabertooth for three days in the AOA that he would give creed a good fight?No its not true. The Magus didn't say that at anytime during the Infinity War. Not only that but the Narrortor says "though they posess nowhere near the fighting spirit of the originals, sheer numbers tell" Dare Devil beat the piss out of his own clone like twice in the space of one fight while whooping on Multiple Man's clone. The cloens were pretty much fodder.
Kulan Gath is Dr. Strange level? Come, come now. Do you think Dr. Strange would have gotten his throne jacked by Ghost Rider. Strange banishes and defeats deific beings all of the time. Do you think that someone who was "Dr. Strange Level" couldn't handle an amped up Ghost Rider or Tanaraq?
No I said a Wild Child who wasn't even nearly trained as 616 Weapon Omega battled Sabertooth for 3 days. One who is actually trained, would still give him a fight.
Except Mr.Fantastic, Iron Man, Hawkeye clones, etc. beat the real versions of themselves one on one. They are far from fodder. Even Prof X couldn't detect they were imposters, fooled Daredevil's senses for awhile. Magnus whole thing was making a copy universe as well. Also it was Black Knight that killed the clone, and Multiple Man didn't beat the Daredevil clone and finish the rest of the quote, "despite the fact they posses nowhere near the fighting spirit of the originals, the advantage is still theirs"
Zarathos, not Ghost Rider. Also Zarathos beat him by taking his amulet ie his main source of power which Gath got back anyways. We don't even know Tanaraq's full strength just that his power is born of sorcery ancient as winter and black as night. Just read Kulan Gath's bios
1. http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/klgath.htm
2. http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=459
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulan_Gath
Originally posted by Warmonger
Wild Child was trained by Wolverine, Captrain America, Nick Fury, Nemesis, Secret Empire, Department H & K, Gamma/ALpha/Omega Flight, Puck, Weapon X, X-Factor and various others we don't know the full list of. He isn't outmatched here as Wild Child in AoA who wasn't even close to be half of skilled as 616 battled Sabertooth to a standstill for three straight bloody days. I'm not saying Weapon Omega wins or loses, but he is no way simply outclassed here.
and? how is that an exageration? was he not trained by all those people? becayse he was, and once again did I say he wins? no. So how is this an exageration? This is exactally what I said above as well
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No I said a Wild Child who wasn't even nearly trained as 616 Weapon Omega battled Sabertooth for 3 days. One who is actually trained, would still give him a fight.Except Mr.Fantastic, Iron Man, Hawkeye clones, etc. beat the real versions of themselves one on one. They are far from fodder. Even Prof X couldn't detect they were imposters, fooled Daredevil's senses for awhile. Magnus whole thing was making a copy universe as well. Also it was Black Knight that killed the clone, and Multiple Man didn't beat the Daredevil clone and finish the rest of the quote, "despite the fact they posses nowhere near the fighting spirit of the originals, the advantage is still theirs"
Zarathos, not Ghost Rider. Also Zarathos beat him by taking his amulet ie his main source of power which Gath got back anyways. We don't even know Tanaraq's full strength just that his power is born of sorcery ancient as winter and black as night. Just read Kulan Gath's bios
1. http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/klgath.htm
2. http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=459
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulan_Gath
I didn't just say exageration I also said spin-
Yes wild Child fought Creed for three days...because as creed admited he was holding back. He wasn't using his rage becasue he didn't want to give Holocaust the satisfaction. As soon as he did he beat Wild Child. Until I read the comic I didn't know Creed was holding back.
No what I meant was that Dare Devil was fighting both the Multiple Man's Clone and his own and Beatign them. The only ones that beat their originals were Iron Man and Mr. Fantasic and apparently it was just for the plot. I don't recal the MAgus ever uttering the words that the the cloens were exact copies.
Zarathos Ghost Rider its more or less the same thing. While Culan Gath was pretty powerful without the super Trinkets Strange has calling him his level is an exageration.
Originally posted by Warmonger
I didn't just say exageration I also said spin-
Yes wild Child fought Creed for three days...because as creed admited he was holding back. He wasn't using his rage becasue he didn't want to give Holocaust the satisfaction. As soon as he did he beat Wild Child. Until I read the comic I didn't know Creed was holding back.No what I meant was that Dare Devil was fighting both the Multiple Man's Clone and his own and Beatign them. The only ones that beat their originals were Iron Man and Mr. Fantasic and apparently it was just for the plot. I don't recal the MAgus ever uttering the words that the the cloens were exact copies.
Zarathos Ghost Rider its more or less the same thing. While Culan Gath was pretty powerful without the super Trinkets Strange has calling him his level is an exageration.
The only thing he was holding back was his feral side not his overall skill level. He also beat him by literally peeing on him as that's the only way it would get through to Wild Child. Basically even Sabertooth admited the only way he could come out alive if he gave into his animal fury and when they first met in the cell they both wanted to rip out each other's throats. For a "mangy pup" who relied on just ferocity is quite impressive.
Hawkeye beat his original as well, and I know what your talking about now and it was only one page and was just one hit who knows what actually happened next or how they began fighting.
Zarathos is far more powerful, well Kulan Gath did even mystically bound Strange, and transformed Professor X and Caliban into a hybrid creature under his control. He also took control of the minds of the Avengers, the X-Men, the New Mutants and the Morlocks, not bad really.
edit: I'm going to bed and then work in the morning so I won't get to your reply till much later, sorry. Night