Originally posted by Big SexyOh well, I don't require you to admit defeat, I'm just telling you, motherbox's power is the The Source's power manifest.
Dude not really. I dont buy into the whole source so its greater bull, The ultimate nullifer itself has not been disproven to be able to be taken over so its basically at a standstill.
But in the meantime, I'll go ahead and take on the whole: Why would Batman be able to use motherbox and not Reed use the nullifier?
Well, lets take a look at the forum rules shall we?
Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them. For example, Daredevil would have his billy-club, but Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate Nullifier.
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they're active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters.
Lets refer back to the fact JLA watchtower not only has motherboxes, or that New Gods with motherboxes are reserve members of the team .. .but was BUILT by celestial technology itself. Given prep, it's perfectly reasonable he could produce one of the devices, as he has done before. Meanwhile it is out of character for Reed to randomly use the Nullifier against an enemy.
Originally posted by Juntai
What the **** are you debating? I'm lost.Are you not on what's greater, the nullifier, or the motherbox?
That's a little off topic, for the sake of it.
Batman takes control of Reeds nullifier with the motherbox, and then rebuilds a big bang inside of his stomach with his own weapon, causing him suddenly expand way . . .way . . way beyond his limits.OK?
Get off that now.The point is, Batman does have access to motherbox, and it is NOT out of character for him to use it, as we've seen him using it.
With prep, it's perfectly reasonable to believe he'd use it, knowing what he's up against in these situations.
OK?
However, since these matches are purely hypothetical, there is no "in-character" aspects to worry about here. It's just whether one character can beat the other character by doing whatever they can in their power.
So, in short, if Reed has access to the Ultimate Nullifier and it's the only way to win, then he will use it. Out of character or not.
Originally posted by JuntaiTrue but read has been shown to keep it around, he just rarely uses it. Anyway my only point for this was I hate the whole idea of well he has the motherbox so he wins. I hate PIS moves on behalf of others because they know the character really has no chance. I just wanted to show that Reed himself keeps it stored and has access to it, but I wll not bring that up just because Reeds in a loosing fight.
Oh well, I don't require you to admit defeat, I'm just telling you, motherbox's power is the The Source's power manifest.But in the meantime, I'll go ahead and take on the whole: Why would Batman be able to use motherbox and not Reed use the nullifier?
Well, lets take a look at the forum rules shall we?
Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them. For example, Daredevil would have his billy-club, [b]but Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate Nullifier.
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they're active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters.Lets refer back to the fact JLA watchtower not only has motherboxes, or that New Gods with motherboxes are reserve members of the team .. .but was BUILT by celestial technology itself. Given prep, it's perfectly reasonable he could produce one of the devices, as he has done before. Meanwhile it is out of character for Reed to randomly use the Nullifier against an enemy. [/B]
Originally posted by Big SexyI agree, it is sort of a cheap way out to be used as frequently as it is... but alas, it's a viable debate, by the rules. He has access to them, and it's not out of character to use one. When.. for Reed, it is.
True but read has been shown to keep it around, he just rarely uses it. Anyway my only point for this was I hate the whole idea of well he has the motherbox so he wins. I hate PIS moves on behalf of others because they know the character really has no chance. I just wanted to show that Reed himself keeps it stored and has access to it, but I wll not bring that up just because Reeds in a loosing fight.
I'm not the one that brought up the motherbox, I'm just telling you why people use it. Especially in a 'prep' debate.
Originally posted by bherrle
May I point out that Dr. Doom has outsmarted Surfer? Why couldn't Batman?
Oh, please. Just because Doom outsmarted Surfer in one particular occasion (you're claiming this; I don't remember it), doesn't mean that Batman automatically will, and furthermore, win in a fight with him.
Because that would be ridiculous.