Superboy Prime runs the gauntlet

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Not according to IC #7.

They had flown through the remains of Krypton, which would have only weakened Earth-1 Supes, then through a red sun which presumably would have weakened them all about the same, then while Earth-1 Supes recovered, Prime beat down Pre-Crisis Supes like a red-headed stepchild before losing to Earth-1 Supes.

And this was after having been attacked by the entire Gl Corps and having just finished a fights with Black Adam, Superboy, Wonder Girl, etc. All in all, that's some Thanos-level herald pimp-smacking, if not even better.

Originally posted by Validus
Kal-L didn't have Pre-Crisis strength. Only reason SBP did was because Alex juiced him up with anti matter energy.

Fair enough. Still an impressive string of beat-downs however.

Don't forget Superboy Prime punched his way out of the Phantom Zone

I still want to see how he got out of the speed force....

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Really? You've seen somebody pull that stunt on SBP considering that his only weakness was shown to be red sunlight or lack of exposure to a sun for years?

Interesting...

There is no proof showing surfer couldnt suck up his sun energy. PLUS you stated that his only weakness was red sunlight. right? Surfer can hit him with red sunlight all day if he chooses.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I still want to see how he got out of the speed force....

Even before he was trapped there he speedblitzed the three Flashes.... speedblitzed them 🙁

i want to know how earth 1 superman stood a chance, let alone beat him?!?!?!?

And SBP has retcon punches ^_^, ss could try to drain SBP, but SBP would be moving so fast that he would beat down SS 100 times before SS even knew he was being hit.

P.S. SBP is pre crisis level, his only weakness is red sun radiation, which doesnt even make him powerless, he still had enough to kill the other supes.

P.S.S. SS could try to drain SBP of his yellow sun light energy, but SS wouldn't have the time, and even if he did drain him, SBP is strong enough to cause retcons by punching the force wall.

especially after they flew through the red sun.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Don't forget Superboy Prime punched his way out of the Phantom Zone

The better question is what CANT superman/boy (any version) punch their way out of? 🙁 🙄

Originally posted by Jesse7
And SBP has retcon punches ^_^, ss could try to drain SBP, but SBP would be moving so fast that he would beat down SS 100 times before SS even knew he was being hit.

Originally posted by bigbran
i want to know how earth 1 superman stood a chance, let alone beat him?!?!?!?

Originally posted by Inhuman
There is no proof showing surfer couldnt suck up his sun energy. PLUS you stated that his only weakness was red sunlight. right? Surfer can hit him with red sunlight all day if he chooses.

The only weakness he's shown has been red sun...unfortunately SS would be KO'd or dead LONG before it took effect.

Sorry. Your cosmic savior isn't built to handle an even MORE pis character.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Not according to IC #7.

They had flown through the remains of Krypton, which would have only weakened Earth-1 Supes, then through a red sun which presumably would have weakened them all about the same, then while Earth-1 Supes recovered, Prime beat down Pre-Crisis Supes like a red-headed stepchild before losing to Earth-1 Supes.

And this was after having been attacked by the entire Gl Corps and having just finished a fights with Black Adam, Superboy, Wonder Girl, etc. All in all, that's some Thanos-level herald pimp-smacking, if not even better.

Everyone assumes Surfer always goes to the msot effective attack first, even without prior knowledge. Sure he could do this. But it wouldn't happened before he gets owned.

So Earth 2 Superman=Pre-Crisis Superman? 😕 And Infinite Crisis was full of jobbing to Superboy Prime. If you look at all the crazy shit Pre-C has done (flown TRILLIONS of miles in seconds, sneezed and destroyed a solar system, used 'time altering punches', etc.) then it's pretty clear that he'd beat on Superboy Prime. 😬

Originally posted by Validus
They were both depowered. A 30 year old man with Clark's physique beats a 17-18 year old kid all day, every day. Same reason SBP killed Kal-L so easy.

Yes I do Bigbran, SS is no slouch, but a few things to keep in mind about SS speed, when has SS ever traveled thousands of times faster in battle? Sure SS has very fast speed when traveling or dashing, but for agility means SS has never shown to go that fast.

Another thing SBP speed blitzed several speedsters at once, and he also flew through a wall that was made by the entire GL corps, I dont see SS doing this, call it jobbing if you will but its still cannon and one of SBP's feats.

Ane one more thing, SBP just has to knock SS off his board, and keep pummeling him, if SS trys to call his board back to him (which is not instantanious it does take time, which ill try to get the scans to show too) then SBP will keep punching him in different directions to keep him away from his board; if thanos can KO SS with punches, then SBP could kill SS with punches in 1/100 of the time.

Originally posted by bigbran
so your saying that superman can do everything that sbp did?

Infinite crisis basically thrust Kal el up into those kind of levels.

If he wasn't, he would have gotten stomped.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Yes I do Bigbran, SS is no slouch, but a few things to keep in mind about SS speed, when has SS ever traveled thousands of times faster in battle? Sure SS has very fast speed when traveling or dashing, but for agility means SS has never shown to go that fast.

Another thing SBP speed blitzed several speedsters at once, and he also flew through a wall that was made by the entire GL corps, I dont see SS doing this, call it jobbing if you will but its still cannon and one of SBP's feats.

Ane one more thing, SBP just has to knock SS off his board, and keep pummeling him, if SS trys to call his board back to him (which is not instantanious it does take time, which ill try to get the scans to show too) then SBP will keep punching him in different directions to keep him away from his board.

Avalon you and Mr. M are two of my favorite posters on this board.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Yes I do Bigbran, SS is no slouch, but a few things to keep in mind about SS speed, when has SS ever traveled thousands of times faster in battle? Sure SS has very fast speed when traveling or dashing, but for agility means SS has never shown to go that fast.

Another thing SBP speed blitzed several speedsters at once, and he also flew through a wall that was made by the entire GL corps, I dont see SS doing this, call it jobbing if you will but its still cannon and one of SBP's feats.

Ane one more thing, SBP just has to knock SS off his board, and keep pummeling him, if SS trys to call his board back to him (which is not instantanious it does take time, which ill try to get the scans to show too) then SBP will keep punching him in different directions to keep him away from his board; if thanos can KO SS with punches, then SBP could kill SS with punches in 1/100 of the time.

SS can fly faster than light speed and PRECISELY hit targets with his cosmic blasts. No way is SS getting touched (without PIS or CIS) if hes going all out ESPECIALLY new upgraded surfer.