Cyclops vs Street Levellers

i agree with apolloknight, distance plays a key role here

Originally posted by jinzin
read above I agree.. visorless. he can take cap...

visorless his blast encompasses more area than cap's sheild can defend against at one time. thats how.

the blast won't be concentrated at all.. it will hit everything and the center will be harder to displace because cyk doesn't have to hit him with the center of the beam..

if you're asking how he gets visorless.. ?

I don't know.. that's a good question.. the cap has PONKED people faster than their trigger fingers could act.. so I'm kinda unclear how cyk is gonna be able to do that...

Originally posted by jinzin
the blast won't be concentrated at all.. it will hit everything and the center will be harder to displace because cyk doesn't have to hit him with the center of the beam..

if you're asking how he gets visorless.. ?

I don't know.. that's a good question.. the cap has PONKED people faster than their trigger fingers could act.. so I'm kinda unclear how cyk is gonna be able to do that...

Which is why distance matters so much. Cyclops, a great tactician himself, would never let Cap get that close to him, lets remember while Cap is a Peak human, Cyc is no pushover either, black-belts and Judo and akido himself, and he also trains like crazy. Although not Peak like capt, he is still very formidable, I would give him Top Tier Boxer Physique.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I'm am well aware that Captain Americas shields stops all kinetic energy used against it, thats what Vibranium does.

A simple optic blast from Cyclops gets deflected easily, but a Forest leveling blast, He could probably stop what he is blocking, but his legs, maybe the top of his skull, and whatever else isn't protected by the shield is getting erased.

See what I mean?

If Cap was close to Cyclops, he could take him down, thats why in this fight distance matters.

It doesn't even stop ALL kinetic energy either. Colossus once punched Cap's shield (with Cap holding of course) and sent him flying the opposite way. If ALL kinetic energy was taken, he wouldn't have gone anywhere.

which doesn't even come close to being any real trheat with cap in h2h.. the thing is while cyk may not WANT to get in close with cap.. he may not have a choice... plus he's gotta be leary of the shield toss...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It doesn't even stop ALL kinetic energy either. Colossus once punched Cap's shield (with Cap holding of course) and sent him flying the opposite way. If ALL kinetic energy was taken, he wouldn't have gone anywhere.

I was just about to ask that question...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It doesn't even stop ALL kinetic energy either. Colossus once punched Cap's shield (with Cap holding of course) and sent him flying the opposite way. If ALL kinetic energy was taken, he wouldn't have gone anywhere.

Originally posted by jinzin
which doesn't even come close to being any real trheat with cap in h2h.. the thing is while cyk may not WANT to get in close with cap.. he may not have a choice... plus he's gotta be leary of the shield toss...

And what's stopping Cyke from just blasting the shield away? I don't see how the throw is a problem. In fact, I do see it as a severe handicap on Cap's part. Sucks for him, losing his shield and all.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And what's stopping Cyke from just blasting the shield away? I don't see how the throw is a problem. In fact, I do see it as a severe handicap on Cap's part. Sucks for him, losing his shield and all.

Originally posted by King KAM
wasnt the real shield, iron man had the real one.

So what you're telling me, is that when Cap has his "real" shield, he's NEVER been knocked the other way when blocking a very powerful attack?

Originally posted by King KAM
cykes can blast something that moves faster than bullets? and catches rockets...

When did Cap's shield become faster than a bullet?

Don't get me wrong, I know he can throw it extremely fast. Bullet-fast, however? Let's not get too overzealous now, King KAM.

Originally posted by King KAM
cykes can blast something that moves faster than bullets? and catches rockets...

Are you implying that Cap is faster then bullets? 🤨

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And what's stopping Cyke from just blasting the shield away? I don't see how the throw is a problem. In fact, I do see it as a severe handicap on Cap's part. Sucks for him, losing his shield and all.

cause any distraction would cause the gap (IF THERE IS ONE OF ANY SIGNIFICANT VALUE) to get THAT much shorter..

Originally posted by jinzin
cause any distraction would cause the gap (IF THERE IS ONE OF ANY SIGNIFICANT VALUE) to get THAT much shorter..

Yea, but Jinzin, you know better than this. Cyke can both blast the shield away and then just LOOK at shield-less Cap and blast him, too, in like...1 second. Blast, blast. Just like that.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So what you're telling me, is that when Cap has his "real" shield, he's NEVER been knocked the other way when blocking a very powerful attack?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yea, but Jinzin, you know better than this. Cyke can both blast the shield away and then just LOOK at shield-less Cap and blast him, too, in like...1 second. Blast, blast. Just like that.

that's one second longer than cap needs... 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
that's one second longer than cap needs... 😕

Why does everyone think Cap runs up to Cyc and obliterates him in H2H, Cyc has held his own against an enrage Logan before, and logan is peak human and arguably faster then Capt

I don't get it....... 🤨

when did cyk do that?

are you talking about when logan was messed up mentally shortly after the pheonix saga.. because even cyk admitted that if he didn't have that to his advantage logan would have manhandled him.. like.. you know..pretty much what happens every time they get into a h2h.