Superman/Wonder Woman vs. Thor/Captain Marvel (Shazam!!!!)

Started by Soujaboy21 pages
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That he never really uses...

Which means what? he rarely uses the god blast but we still bring up that in debates.

It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal . For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

One-off displays of abilities are very iffy, unless characters do things regularly or at least multiple times the ability can just be deus ex machina/plot device on the part of the writers. So when people do bring up obscure powers I'd like to know how often they've been shown. As has already been brought up things like soulvision etc

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
One-off displays of abilities are very iffy, unless characters do things regularly or at least multiple times the ability can just be deus ex machina/plot device on the part of the writers. So when people do bring up obscure powers I'd like to know how often they've been shown. As has already been brought up things like soulvision etc
It does build a case for versatility of one character over another though..

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
One-off displays of abilities are very iffy, unless characters do things regularly or at least multiple times the ability can just be deus ex machina/plot device on the part of the writers. So when people do bring up obscure powers I'd like to know how often they've been shown. As has already been brought up things like soulvision etc

What does how often they do it have to do with if they can do it or not?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
WW has lifted the hammer in a non-cannon comic.
DON'T TALK ABOUT NON- CANNON SHOWINGS CUZ AQUAMAN BEAT WONDER WOMEN IN A JLA CARTOON SO YEA. anyways i say cap/thor take this 7/10 marvel will beat wonder women then him and thor will just pound supes face in. look at what marvel did in kingdom come yea he lost but he put up a great fight with supes who was on some pc shit. wonder women could never put up a good showing with kingdom come supes, and i really don't see her beating cap so yea cap/thor take it,

Originally posted by Soujaboy
What does how often they do it have to do with if they can do it or not?
Wonder Woman lassoed Zolomon Zoom. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Why would bring in all of Superman and Wonder Woman's abilities if im debating for Thor and Cap Marvel? It's not my job to debate for characters I don't think will win.

I said this was RTK because it's the current version of Thor, and I only reason I said it was because Batdude was being an ass.

The fact that you don't think as a whole is probably why you shouldn't be debating in the first place.😬

Originally posted by Soujaboy
What does how often they do it have to do with if they can do it or not?

Somethings change from writer to writer which makes things extremely eh.

Originally posted by mighty adam
DON'T TALK ABOUT NON- CANNON SHOWINGS CUZ AQUAMAN BEAT WONDER WOMEN IN A JLA CARTOON SO YEA. anyways i say cap/thor take this 7/10 marvel will beat wonder women then him and thor will just pound supes face in. look at what marvel did in kingdom come yea he lost but he put up a great fight with supes who was on some pc shit. wonder women could never put up a good showing with kingdom come supes, and i really don't see her beating cap so yea cap/thor take it,

Sweetie did you just say not to bring up non cannon showings and then brought up Kingdom Come?

Originally posted by mighty adam
DON'T TALK ABOUT NON- CANNON SHOWINGS CUZ AQUAMAN BEAT WONDER WOMEN IN A JLA CARTOON SO YEA. anyways i say cap/thor take this 7/10 marvel will beat wonder women then him and thor will just pound supes face in. look at what marvel did in kingdom come yea he lost but he put up a great fight with supes who was on some pc shit. wonder women could never put up a good showing with kingdom come supes, and i really don't see her beating cap so yea cap/thor take it,

"DON'T TALK ABOUT NON- CANNON SHOWINGS CUZ AQUAMAN BEAT WONDER WOMEN IN A JLA CARTOON SO YEA"

"look at what marvel did in kingdom come yea"

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Originally posted by LethalFemme
Sweetie did you just say not to bring up non cannon showings and then brought up Kingdom Come?
lol I saw that too.

Originally posted by Juntai
lol I saw that too.

He basically canceled his self out.😂

😆

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Sweetie did you just say not to bring up non cannon showings and then brought up Kingdom Come?
no no no i know its not cannon he used a non cannon feat so i just used one to make wonder women look bad and one to make cap look good. still caps better 😉

Originally posted by mighty adam
no no no i know its not cannon he used a non cannon feat so i just used one to make wonder women look bad and one to make cap look good. still caps better 😉

Wonder Woman is easily Cap's equal. Plus she doesn't have the magic weakness like Superman does. 😉

Originally posted by mighty adam
no no no i know its not cannon he used a non cannon feat so i just used one to make wonder women look bad and one to make cap look good. still caps better 😉
K... whatever you say... 🙂

Originally posted by mighty adam
no no no i know its not cannon he used a non cannon feat so i just used one to make wonder women look bad and one to make cap look good. still caps better 😉

He never said there was any relativity to it. He only said it because I was teetering on whether or not she could lift it. He mentioned it was non cannon so there wasn't a need for the kingdom come remark. And of course cap is better until you add experience, skills and weaponry.

Originally posted by batdude123
Wonder Woman is easily Cap's equal. Plus she doesn't have the magic weakness like Superman does. 😉
wonder lady is good yes marvel's equal no. cap is supes equal. 😄

Originally posted by LethalFemme
He never said there was any relativity to it. He only said it because I was teetering on whether or not she could lift it. He mentioned it was non cannon so there wasn't a need for the kingdom come remark. And of course cap is better until you add experience, skills and weaponry.
the people he get his powers from give him more experience and skill then wonder women. all she has over him is weaponry but thor got her beat there. 🙂

Originally posted by mighty adam
wonnder is good yes marvel's equal no. cap is supes equal. 😄

Superman overall is more powerful than Captain Marvel. The only reason why he is capable of competing with him, is because of Superman's weakness to magic. Wonder Woman doesn't have to worry about that because her powers stem from magical roots. However, Wonder Woman has definitely got Cap licked in the skill department. 😉

Originally posted by mighty adam
the people he get his powers from give him more experience and skill then wonder women. all she has over him is weaponry but thor got her beat there. 🙂

Imo, it would be:

Thor vs. Superman
Wonder Woman vs. Captain Marvel