Originally posted by King KAMYou might bullshit alot of people in here but your statement about cro cop is a joke I doubt you know what MMA is Fedor is great but has not fought in a year Cro cop just took out Minowa in the first round two weeks ago and is fighting Mark hunt tommorrow in the Open GP bushido The guy is already legendary and the most feared striker in the world if he wins the GP tourney will get his rematch with fedor the first time they met fedor squeaked out a decision proclaimimng cro cop the toughest guy he has ever faced. Being a guy who trains in MMA if you knew how many fighters refuse to fight him it would shock you that high left kick is just scary by the way Wanderlei silva is the baddest man under 205..
crocop is a pushover. and he will never be champ.P.S Fedor is the baddest man to ever live.
Originally posted by chris_64256i know who the eff Crocop is he took out Minowa??? WOW!!! minowa is a CAN who gets beat up by anyone with a winning record. Minowa shouldnt even be allowed in pride. And Hunt has already beat Crocop just like Fedor and I beleive he will do it again, Crocop is one Dimensional and not well rounded at all. And I dont care what you train i do BJJ and muay thai too, you dont have to play a sport to analyze it.
You might bullshit alot of people in here but your statement about cro cop is a joke I doubt you know what MMA is Fedor is great but has not fought in a year Cro cop just took out Minowa in the first round two weeks ago and is fighting Mark hunt tommorrow in the Open GP bushido The guy is already legendary and the most feared striker in the world if he wins the GP tourney will get his rematch with fedor the first time they met fedor squeaked out a decision proclaimimng cro cop the toughest guy he has ever faced. Being a guy who trains in MMA if you knew how many fighters refuse to fight him it would shock you that high left kick is just scary by the way Wanderlei silva is the baddest man under 205..
Crocop might of done some damage on Fedor but that victory in no way was a squeak. Crocop is yet to beat anyone with any real merritt, meaning Noguiera,Silva,or Emielanenko(fedor). He loses to all the top competitors and will most likely lose to Hunt again, because if cro-cop cant out stand you he will lose.
Wanderlei Silva is cureents not under 205 he is fighting Heavyweight for the OWGP and not the baddest man under 205 even when he is, he is AMONGST the top fighters but no way a clear cut #1.
And as for crocop striking...when he was in k-1 my man hoost you to make him his *****..
and yeah, i bet you didnt think i knew all of this and was just talking out my ass again.....sorry you were wrong.
Originally posted by King KAMAnd Fedor has beaten every top HW that pride has to offer except for up and coming hunt, who i think he is FULLY capable of taking out by way of GnP... He IS the most dominant man in MMA short of Matt Hughes And Rich Franklin at 185....Silva is dominant but....he has so many GREAT names in 205 to fight its hard to tell if he can beat them all...i mean shogun is looking REAL nice lately...and lets not forget about little nog.
i know who the eff Crocop is he took out Minowa??? WOW!!! minowa is a CAN who gets beat up by anyone with a winning record. Minowa shouldnt even be allowed in pride. And Hunt has already beat Crocop just like Fedor and I beleive he will do it again, Crocop is one Dimensional and not well rounded at all. And I dont care what you train i do BJJ and muay thai too, you dont have to play a sport to analyze it.Crocop might of done some damage on Fedor but that victory in no way was a squeak. Crocop is yet to beat anyone with any real merritt, meaning Noguiera,Silva,or Emielanenko(fedor). He loses to all the top competitors and will most likely lose to Hunt again, because if cro-cop cant out stand you he will lose.
Wanderlei Silva is cureents not under 205 he is fighting Heavyweight for the OWGP and not the baddest man under 205 even when he is, he is AMONGST the top fighters but no way a clear cut #1.
And as for crocop striking...when he was in k-1 my man hoost you to make him his *****..
and yeah, i bet you didnt think i knew all of this and was just talking out my ass again.....sorry you were wrong.
Originally posted by King KAMyou have proved my point cro cop has not beat a top fighters, Right Bullshit he has beaten Josh barnett twice mark coleman,kevin randleman, Aleksander emlieankeo , Igor Vovchancyn, Heath carzy hore hering, Kazushi ' the gracie hunter' sakuraba, Kazuyuki Iron chin Fujita in Pride 4 of the top ten heavyweights in pride cro cop has one of the best sprawls thats take down defense NOw in K1 he has beaten Jerome lebanner who is a ****ing monster mike bernardo, Musashi, REmy bonjasky, Mark hunt, peter aerts, and was the first person to knockout BOB sapp in 86 seconds yeah he has beaten nobodys and your comments on Wanderlei I wont even comment you have no Idea what you are talking about This is my sport I have been to some of these fights thats why I'm in awe of the man complete badass. one dimensional fighter he is not he trains under Fabricio werdum hes is becoming well rounded nice try though..
i know who the eff Crocop is he took out Minowa??? WOW!!! minowa is a CAN who gets beat up by anyone with a winning record. Minowa shouldnt even be allowed in pride. And Hunt has already beat Crocop just like Fedor and I beleive he will do it again, Crocop is one Dimensional and not well rounded at all. And I dont care what you train i do BJJ and muay thai too, you dont have to play a sport to analyze it.Crocop might of done some damage on Fedor but that victory in no way was a squeak. Crocop is yet to beat anyone with any real merritt, meaning Noguiera,Silva,or Emielanenko(fedor). He loses to all the top competitors and will most likely lose to Hunt again, because if cro-cop cant out stand you he will lose.
Wanderlei Silva is cureents not under 205 he is fighting Heavyweight for the OWGP and not the baddest man under 205 even when he is, he is AMONGST the top fighters but no way a clear cut #1.
And as for crocop striking...when he was in k-1 my man hoost you to make him his *****..
and yeah, i bet you didnt think i knew all of this and was just talking out my ass again.....sorry you were wrong.
Originally posted by Sea King
hum zabuza momochi would kill him 😎
I should hope so. He is the only character in the entire series (including Itachi) to land a hit on Kakashi. Kakashi a character with a sharingan eye and moves fast enough to cut through lightening bolts... with a move that uses hand seals and time to charge. Respect the Devil of the Hiddenmist!
Originally posted by chris_64256so you just named some top heavyweights??? NO you named men that WERE top heavy weights, Josh Barnett is probably the best name in there, Kevin Randleman not only KO'ed Crocop in their first match but he is WAY past his prime, Colemans prime was in the UFC he had a little glory after the GP but he is NOT top tier,Alexander Emielanenko is Okay but not championship material, Igor shouldnt have been fighting Heavyweight and is no where near top tier, and niether is Heath.
you have proved my point cro cop has not beat a top fighters, Right Bullshit he has beaten Josh barnett twice mark coleman,kevin randleman, Aleksander emlieankeo , Igor Vovchancyn, Heath carzy hore hering, Kazushi ' the gracie hunter' sakuraba, Kazuyuki Iron chin Fujita in Pride 4 of the top ten heavyweights in pride cro cop has one of the best sprawls thats take down defense NOw in K1 he has beaten Jerome lebanner who is a ****ing monster mike bernardo, Musashi, REmy bonjasky, Mark hunt, peter aerts, and was the first person to knockout BOB sapp in 86 seconds yeah he has beaten nobodys and your comments on Wanderlei I wont even comment you have no Idea what you are talking about This is my sport I have been to some of these fights thats why I'm in awe of the man complete badass. one dimensional fighter he is not he trains under Fabricio werdum hes is becoming well rounded nice try though..
you just named some B level fighters and ex-A list fighters and Called them top tier. the top tiers in pride are.
Minatauro, Fedor,and its looking like Hunt.
You said he was the baddest Heavyweight and that is just not effing true, and it isnt your sport, who the hell are you??? anyone can train MMA but are you worth a damn???? until proven you are im gonna say you arent.
And as with Silva besides Arona(which he lost to, and barely beat), who has Silva beat??? Rampage,and then a bunch of nobody japanese guys.
I LOVE Sakuraba, but he naturally weighs 190pounds and should not be fighting men who walk around at 215-220 pounds. and thats the Truth, so Silva beating Saku and CroCop beating Saku arent feats they are probabilities.
And Crocop has done NOTHING Fedor nor minatauro havent, so until he does, he is #3, considering they both have beat him, and now so has mark hunt, and i am pretty sure mark hunt is going to do it again.
Originally posted by srankmissingninMaito Gai would smoke em both. and Rock Lee would help.
I should hope so. He is the only character in the entire series (including Itachi) to land a hit on Kakashi. Kakashi a character with a sharingan eye and moves fast enough to cut through lightening bolts... with a move that uses hand seals and time to charge. Respect the Devil of the Hiddenmist!
Originally posted by King KAM
Minowa shouldnt even be allowed in pride.
Originally posted by King KAM
Crocop might of done some damage on Fedor but that victory in no way was a squeak. Crocop is yet to beat anyone with any real merritt, meaning Noguiera,Silva,or Emielanenko(fedor). He loses to all the top competitors and will most likely lose to Hunt again, because if cro-cop cant out stand you he will lose.
Originally posted by King KAM
Wanderlei Silva is cureents not under 205 he is fighting Heavyweight for the OWGP and not the baddest man under 205 even when he is, he is AMONGST the top fighters but no way a clear cut #1.
Originally posted by King KAM
And as for crocop striking...when he was in k-1 my man hoost you to make him his *****..
Originally posted by StyleTimeand once again i was correct...
This is the truest statement ever spoken on these boards. ✅Noguiera and Crocop should have had a rematch already. Crocop was wooping ass that match and Nog got a sneaky little armbar on because Mirko got careless. Silva vs Crocop was just a draw and it was Crocop's Pride debut if I recall correctly. Crocop was understandably a little nervous and he still sent Silva home with some broken ribs from his kick. I want to see Crocop fight Hunt again. Mirko was out of it last time. I think if he gets his head in the game he'll win. Let's not forget that Crocop already beat Hunt in K-1. I don't think Crocop is as done for as you think. I do agree though, he does tend to have some questionable showings against the absolute top tier.
Agreed. Arona already proved how far some wrestling can take you against Silva.
It's been so long since I saw that fight. I think Crocop's rib was already broken no? He also put up a pretty good fight. He also beat Bonjasky who went on to beat Hoost. You do have a point though. Strikers generally aren't as polished in MMA as they are in kickboxing circuits like K-1, so Crocop looked a lot better against most of the MMA strikers.
and as gor hoost and cro-cop he dominated crocop not onece but TWICE and as for Bonjasky....he fought a prime cro-cop when he wasnt in his prime, and fought an out of prime Hoost while in his prime. aint the same.
Originally posted by StyleTimeCro cop had injurys to his feet when he fought hunt in pride he wore shoes and was almost flat footed most of the fight. DO you remeber cro cops foot print in Silvas ribs crazy stuff. And his ribs were broken he fought twice that night befoe hoost .
This is the truest statement ever spoken on these boards. ✅Noguiera and Crocop should have had a rematch already. Crocop was wooping ass that match and Nog got a sneaky little armbar on because Mirko got careless. Silva vs Crocop was just a draw and it was Crocop's Pride debut if I recall correctly. Crocop was understandably a little nervous and he still sent Silva home with some broken ribs from his kick. I want to see Crocop fight Hunt again. Mirko was out of it last time. I think if he gets his head in the game he'll win. Let's not forget that Crocop already beat Hunt in K-1. I don't think Crocop is as done for as you think. I do agree though, he does tend to have some questionable showings against the absolute top tier.
Agreed. Arona already proved how far some wrestling can take you against Silva.
It's been so long since I saw that fight. I think Crocop's rib was already broken no? He also put up a pretty good fight. He also beat Bonjasky who went on to beat Hoost. You do have a point though. Strikers generally aren't as polished in MMA as they are in kickboxing circuits like K-1, so Crocop looked a lot better against most of the MMA strikers.
Originally posted by King KAM
and once again i was correct...and as gor hoost and cro-cop he dominated crocop not onece but TWICE and as for Bonjasky....he fought a prime cro-cop when he wasnt in his prime, and fought an out of prime Hoost while in his prime. aint the same.
Well, the same could be said for Crocop. He seem to be in his prime since he entered Pride. His K-1 days are more like...perfecting technique. I'm not taking anything away from Hoost though. He is Mr. Perfect after all.
Originally posted by chris_64256yes i am over 18 and i have been watching MMA sinceabout 96.
Thanks for the entertainment are you over 18 just curious you have little to know Idea what you are talking about but its good to hear your a fan keep it up Mirko is a bad man by the way Coleman, hunt, Fujita , Barnett are all top ten Heavys He is no "Pushover" what a joke ...
Hunt and Barnett are tops, not Coleman and Fujita.