Originally posted by Dalak
I was under the impression that Jobbing = PIS.My only issue with teh feat is Hulk's resisting Glad's eye beams with his hand(s) after having his chest hurt bad by them.
I think that part is somewhat valid at the least due to Hulk's repeated affecting of energy with his hands, and having your Chest shot would be very aggravating.
The Radiation that glads is weak to being right there? PIS.
Glads going slow enough for Hulk to hit him? PIS with some CIS mixed in.
Glads not being strong enough to knock into space? Dunno, thoguh it could be tied to his COnfidence level somehow.
Overall: Bad feat IMO
Not really. PIS can be anything, from the main character himself doing things they normally can't(Spidey surviving a nuke, for instance) to the plot moving in directions that assist the main character(or someone else, for that matter) in an unrealistic way. Jobbing, on the other hand can occur logically. Thor for example, likes to engage in mano a mano fist fights, when he really doesn't have to. He just likes to do it. It's not logical fallacy or anything, it's just in his nature.
Glads going slow enough for Hulk to hit him is a bit PIS/CISy, but not from Hulk's part. In fact, almost nothing the Hulk did or resisted was out of character.
Originally posted by Dalak
AND Superman, AND Thor, AND pretty much every High End in comics.Do I need to continually re-quote my posts to keep you telling the truth?
I'm glad Ive been lying this whole time. 😕
I'm not the one that said, the reason why hulk has lost every fight he ever lost is for pure entertainment, nor superman, nor spider-man, or batman, or any other mainstream in comics.
Some of the fights, yeah, maybe it shouldn't of gone the way it gone, but most of them, hey, thats the way it went.
Matter fact, this thing has got bigger then Hulk, every mainstream that ever lost shouldn't right, I mean they are popular and iconic, little kids idle them right.
I bet you think bane shouldnt of broke batmans back huh?
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Not really. PIS can be anything, from the main character himself doing things they normally can't(Spidey surviving a nuke, for instance) to the plot moving in directions that assist the main character(or someone else, for that matter) in an unrealistic way. Jobbing, on the other hand can occur logically. Thor for example, likes to engage in mano a mano fist fights, when he really doesn't have to. He just likes to do it. It's not logical fallacy or anything, it's just in his nature.Glads going slow enough for Hulk to hit him is a bit PIS/CISy, but not from Hulk's part. In fact, almost nothing the Hulk did or resisted was out of character.
Well I can give you the fight was free of PIS on Hulk's side (Plot Deviceyness that he is besides the point) but Glads has shown himself as more beyond the "GUNNA YOU DIE!!" style of fighting of most, and a guy willing to use his advantages against "lesser" mortals from what I know of him.
Most on Earth seem to want to test their might against Hulk when that is the worst posisble thing you can do to him. I maintain that he is a constant challenge to the ego of anyone who rates themselves by thier Strength or Power. That is admittedly a theory, but it is one that is bourne out in the comics. Unlike Hulk's Strength which is proven time and again.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I'm glad Ive been lying this whole time. 😕I'm not the one that said, the reason why hulk has lost every fight he ever lost is for pure entertainment, nor superman, nor spider-man, or batman, or any other mainstream in comics.
Some of the fights, yeah, maybe it shouldn't of gone the way it gone, but most of them, hey, thats the way it went.
Matter fact, this thing has got bigger then Hulk, every mainstream that ever lost shouldn't right, I mean they are popular and iconic, little kids idle them right.
I bet you think bane shouldnt of broke batmans back huh?
So Batman is suddenly a High End character, and not simply a guy with lots of Tech and skill?
I'll admit I was vague and didn't say Almost every time allowing for the real defeats that happen. But then there's times when Spidey gets beat by a thug on the street but comes back to speedblitz Thor (NOT A REAL SCENARIO). Those count too?
No, that's why you compare them to each other, hense comparing Feats, SMvsFL, PIS, and CIS. Respect threads include all the high-ends, good and bad, and there's no way to escape that. Again, that's why we compare.
Originally posted by bigbran
there is only 2 comic characters that raley have a bad day. and they are supes and bats, overated hell yeah. and im off topic but, so is everyone else.
Yes I agree, but even superman was killed, and batman was broke in half.
Maybe those events shouldn't of happened, superman and batman are very popular and they sell a ton of comics.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yes I agree, but even superman was killed, and batman was broke in half.Maybe those events shouldn't of happened, superman and batman are very popular and they sell a ton of comics.
They were "un-happened" by the might-powers of Retcon and PIS 😄
Batman's walking/fighting/"I'm Batman"ing fine now, and Supes can't be more alive, unless you know he was real and alive 😉.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thats the same thing everyone has said except the Hulk fans. That we don't know what happened in the hours that the fight lasted so we can't make assumptions. I forgot that you knew everything and could tell us what happened, so tell us?
Well, he could have also broken his neck... but Hulk has healed from that before as well.
I guess he could have broken every bone in Hulk's body... but Hulk has healed from that before as well.
There's the possibility that he could have fried the skin off of Hulk's body... but that didn't work either in the past.
I suppose he could have removed Hulk's organs... but that has shown not to work either.
He could have reduced Hulk to atoms... oh, wait.
Puzzling. 😕
Originally posted by Accel
Personally I think the idea that no popular character should suffer low moments is stupid. If a character is popular, then he/she should still have his/her highs and lows. A popular character's greatest feats shouldn't all be condemned because of notoriety.
I agree with you, they should win and lose accordingly. I'm afraid that they don't the majority of the time, and good characters that are do get villified for it. Look at Spider Man and Batman. They are both incredibly popular characters but thier haters sieze on nearly every win as Jobbing or PIS which cause the Fanboys to call PIS and Jobbing on the crappy losses and the viscious cycle continues.
Like with Hulk here.
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Originally posted by Dalak
Well it's already done, I report, then say that I've reported. Though I agree with you about the rest.But if you leave children to do their bad habits they'll never get over them. Time Out's don't work I'm afraid, but BElt/Switch spankings are beatings.
Spanking is the way to go IMO, but while I'm sure I could overwhelm and spank Souja I woulnd't want to nor would it do any good.
I'd end up like that GIF/AVI where teh stick figure wears his arms off 😉
😐 I bet you everything I love that you wouldn't touch me.