Darth Maul vs. Anakin (Obsession)
Obsession is 5 months before ROTS, I beleive, a little after Anakin was knighted. Well, you've read the comics, right?
For those of you that haven't and are bored or really want to post on this thread and can't due to lack of information!!!... 🙁 : http://www.swcomics.com/?f=Obsession
Anakin should be able to take out Maul. While Maul was a sith lord, he was very inexperienced and still very much a student while Anakin by Obsession was not far off how powerful he was in ROTS and was as powerful as most jedi masters imo. Anakin also displayed more skill in the movies imo and throughout the EU, has displayed greater strength in the force (such as destroying a building through the force by screaming) while Maul has hardly displayed anything too spectacular with the force imho.
Originally posted by darthsith19he was too, did you not hear him say, "i was only being selfish, but i was afraid to lose you as long as she was alive" this goes to maul.
Obsession Asajj is just as strong or stronger than Maul. Anakin was only losing cause he wasn't trying to kill Asajj. I say Anakin beats Maul though that could go either way.
Anakin should take this, he was damn good with both saber and sword. And he was not loosing the battle, and he was not trying to kill her, Obi kept him from doing that and he listened to him.... And when he said he struck her out of fear was when Obi was talking to her when she was about to kill him with that metal piece, not about their battle. (Which I would not call a battle because neither Obi or Ani tried to kill her. Anakin wanted to but Obi wouldn't allow it).
It could go either way.
Anakin only gained the upper hand with Dooku when the Count taunted him. Maul didn't really say anything during his duel with Obi-Wan or Qui-Gon. Yes, Maul was beaten by Padawan Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan used a trick shot rather than straight out fencing (even when he lost his temper following Qui-Gon's death and drove Maul back, Maul was still able to recover the ground he'd lost. I think had the duel continued, Maul could have won (he was certainly good enough to duel Qui-Gon, who was supposed to be one of the Jedi's finest swordsmen. So getting back on track...
Maul isn't a pushover by any means. He's also unlikely to taunt Anakin to anger him, so given his more extensive training in duelling, if it was to go one way, I think Maul could take it, but it would not be an easy victory, and would be along the lines of Anakin's duel with Obi-Wan. There would be a lot of stalemating, before Maul ultimately takes it.
Anakin would crush Maul. Maul got his ass beat by Padawan Kenobi. Anakin was stronger than Council member Kenobi. Jedi Master Kenobi would kick Mauls ass so hard its not even funny., Obi-wan was pushed to his very limits in the duel against Anakin. Obi-wan was tired as hell while Anakin was still relatively fresh. He would destroy Maul even faster than Obi-wan would. Maul is overrated.
1. Anakin is NOT stronger than Council member Kenobi, this is Obsession Anakin, NOT ROTS Anakin!
2. Maul was NOT getting owned by TPM Obi-Wan, look at the first 90% of their fight when Maul was owning Obi-Wan while fending off Qui-Gon. At the end of the duel, even when Obi-Wan was using his anger he was still unable to best Maul in lightsaber combat and had to rely on his luck to win.
Maul defeating Qui-Gon was a cheap shot, he didn't overcome him until he hit him in the face with the hilt. Maul would probably have won anyway, but it would take longer time... Anakin by obsession is near Anakin in ROTS. Anakin is damn good at this point.
Anakin defeated Assaj Ventress twice in battle, she overcame Obi-Wan as a knight/master damn faster than Maul overcame him as a padawan. Anakin showed alot better usage of the force than Maul as well....
Anakin also overcame Dooku (in ROTS, but this is not far from it) who is clearly alot superior than Maul. (I don't want to bring the discussion about Dooku and Anakin into this thread so I used the word "overcame"😉. I think Anakin has this, not easily but he has.
Originally posted by kamikz
Maul defeating Qui-Gon was a cheap shot, he didn't overcome him until he hit him in the face with the hilt. Maul would probably have won anyway, but it would take longer time...
Originally posted by kamikz
Anakin defeated Assaj Ventress twice in battle, she overcame Obi-Wan as a knight/master damn faster than Maul overcame him as a padawan.
Originally posted by kamikz
Anakin showed alot better usage of the force than Maul as well....
Originally posted by kamikz
I think Anakin has this, not easily but he has.
Originally posted by Darth Vious
It could go either way.
Anakin only gained the upper hand with Dooku when the Count taunted him. Maul didn't really say anything during his duel with Obi-Wan or Qui-Gon. Yes, Maul was beaten by Padawan Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan used a trick shot rather than straight out fencing (even when he lost his temper following Qui-Gon's death and drove Maul back, Maul was still able to recover the ground he'd lost. I think had the duel continued, Maul could have won (he was certainly good enough to duel Qui-Gon, who was supposed to be one of the Jedi's finest swordsmen. So getting back on track...
Maul isn't a pushover by any means. He's also unlikely to taunt Anakin to anger him, so given his more extensive training in duelling, if it was to go one way, I think Maul could take it, but it would not be an easy victory, and would be along the lines of Anakin's duel with Obi-Wan. There would be a lot of stalemating, before Maul ultimately takes it.
I have to disagree. At that point Obi-Wan was winning the battle at that point. And Maul had like 2 lines in TPM so I doubt he'll taunt Anakin. Obi-Wan from TPM was capable to defeating Maul and Anakin is equal or greater to Jedi Master Obi-Wan.
Originally posted by Darth Vious
Very true. That said, Obi-Wan also needed a cheap shot to overcome Maul. Had their fight continued on a more level area, I suspect Maul would have taken Obi-Wan.I'm not so sure... I think Maul was a lot better than Assaj. Don't forget, the majority of the fight, he was fighting not just Obi-Wan, but also Qui-Gon as well...
This is also true... Anakin does have a penchant for cheapshots...
Without bring up the Anakin-Dooku debate, I think that if Anakin were to overcome Maul it would be through similar means of a cheap shot, rather than actually out-duelling him.
Yes I agree, I don't think Obi-Wan could have prevailed, but he did put up a damn good fight to him....
I don't agree with this, I think Assaj is a little better than Maul actually, or equal. Few could match sabers with her.
http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=24&f=41&name=Jedi_-_Mace_Windu
In mere seconds she is able to disarm a jedi....
http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=23&f=41&name=Jedi_-_Mace_Windu
She was even able to put up a fair fight with Mace Windu and escape with her life....
http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=39&f=41&name=Jedi_-_Mace_Windu
This is Assaj before Obsession. She is very skilled with the force as well. By using the force only she could completly immobilize Kenobi from doing a single move, she could rip out many boulders from a roof awefully quickly, she pushed trained jedi away with ease. That is only some examples and they far exceeds Mauls "pushing boxes and strangling thugs" force abilities. And this to is Assaj before Obsession....
So does Maul apparently. All he did to gain the better of his opponents in TPM was by taking cheap shots....
Anakin actually outmanuvered Assaj with pure sword skills only, twice. This is the same Assaj that many times before Obsession defeated a more powerful and experienced Obi-Wan than Maul did, and won in about 1/4 the time it took Maul to take down a lesser Kenobi....
Originally posted by kamikz
Yes I agree, I don't think Obi-Wan could have prevailed, but he did put up a damn good fight to him....
Originally posted by kamikz
I don't agree with this, I think Assaj is a little better than Maul actually, or equal. Few could match sabers with her.
http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=24&f=41&name=Jedi_-_Mace_Windu
In mere seconds she is able to disarm a jedi....
http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=23&f=41&name=Jedi_-_Mace_Windu
She was even able to put up a fair fight with Mace Windu and escape with her life....
http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=39&f=41&name=Jedi_-_Mace_WinduThis is Assaj before Obsession. She is very skilled with the force as well. By using the force only she could completly immobilize Kenobi from doing a single move, she could rip out many boulders from a roof awefully quickly, she pushed trained jedi away with ease. That is only some examples and they far exceeds Mauls "pushing boxes and strangling thugs" force abilities. And this to is Assaj before Obsession....
Originally posted by kamikz
So does Maul apparently. All he did to gain the better of his opponents in TPM was by taking cheap shots....
Originally posted by kamikz
Anakin actually outmanuvered Assaj with pure sword skills only, twice. This is the same Assaj that many times before Obsession defeated a more powerful and experienced Obi-Wan than Maul did, and won in about 1/4 the time it took Maul to take down a lesser Kenobi....