2 Things God Desires...

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all of mankind to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 2:3-4

What say you?

See the proble with this is two fold.

First...assuming all Chirstianity says is true...then we need to come to god's truth. This is flawed within itself. Its very difficult to find absolute truth in non-physical entities. Some may argue it does not exist at all. Therefore, we are searching for something that imo does not exist.

Second this statement implies that we are bad people for not bowing to the irrevocable dictatorship of one god. I must say there are many dictators in the world...and I think no man should cower in front of any of them.

God only wants 2 things? Then how come there are like 74 books in the Bible ? Why so many guidelines, if God only wants 2 things?

Cause he's a jealous god??? 😕

But that would be a sin wouldn't it??

Originally posted by debbiejo
Cause he's a jealous god??? 😕

But that would be a sin wouldn't it??

Don't forget he's wrathful also.

But wait...isn't wrath a sin?

That mean's God's a SINNER !.jawdrop

yum....wrath.

God said it was ok for King David to have all those wives and concubines...........gods a pimp....

That's a sin too...

God also said Homosexuality is wrong, didn't he ?

But Jesus makes me godroolio

If you got that involved with him to have that stuff smeared all over your face.... I submit he's real!

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all of mankind to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 2:3-4

What say you?

How sweet . . . . wait do we actually need to be saved?

Originally posted by debbiejo
God said it was ok for King David to have all those wives and concubines...........gods a pimp....
That's a sin too...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
God also said Homosexuality is wrong, didn't he ?

debbiejo, there is your proof that GOD is indeed a HE: He seems to be a homophobic and he does not have anything against a harem. and as a bonus you also know now that he is Mormon.
💃

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is nothing to be saved from. 😎

This is what makes Jesus unique. We are our worst enemy. We need to be saved from ourselves. Only Jesus can atone for sin.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is Christ Jesus our Lord."

"For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."

We ALL need Jesus.

Originally posted by Alliance
See the proble with this is two fold.

First...assuming all Chirstianity says is true...then we need to come to god's truth. This is flawed within itself. Its very difficult to find absolute truth in non-physical entities. Some may argue it does not exist at all. Therefore, we are searching for something that imo does not exist.

Second this statement implies that we are bad people for not bowing to the irrevocable dictatorship of one god. I must say there are many dictators in the world...and I think no man should cower in front of any of them.

We are bad people.

"All have sinned and fall short..."

"The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is Christ Jesus the Lord."

Accept Him not reject Him.

We all will bow down before Him anyway Alliance. Why not start now while He is Savior instead of Judge?

Nothing makes God happier than when we are nice to each other. Period.

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
This is what makes Jesus unique. We are our worst enemy. We need to be saved from ourselves. Only Jesus can atone for sin.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is Christ Jesus our Lord."

"For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."

We ALL need Jesus.

I have no idea how you got that, from what I said. 😕

Honestly, my heart aches for you debbiejo and for all others that don't desire to know the truth (God) and to have a relationship with him. I am saying this sincerely! It is hard to put your faith into something that you do not visibly see or that you cannot touch with your hands! But God does love you and whatever ache I feel for you, he feels 100 times more ache for you. He wants nothing more than to be with you. I am not a big debater, so i will it at that.

In my catholic days ive seen so many like you. Your just one in a million, brainwashed. I could say anything to you, it would never change your mind, or your opposition.
Most likeley you were forced into religion at birth,and at some point in your life you grew very dedicated to the religion your parents always told you was right.

Originally posted by Soleran
God's in your heart Debbiejo you need look no further then that.

Sister Maria called it faith, to beleive without no reason at all. She say you shouldn't have to be satisfied with your eyes that you should beleive in it despite anything else.

I call it walking ignorantly and blindly.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have no idea how you got that, from what I said. 😕

Neither do I. Sometimes I go off topic. Drives my wife crazy.

Originally posted by Mindship
Nothing makes God happier than when we are nice to each other. Period.

Well, that's important... but the thread tells you what He really desires. 🙂

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
Neither do I. Sometimes I go off topic. Drives my wife crazy.

😆 Fair enough... 😆

Originally posted by Stealth Agent

Sister Maria called it faith, to beleive without no reason at all. She say you shouldn't have to be satisfied with your eyes that you should beleive in it despite anything else.

I call it walking ignorantly and blindly. [/B]

I call Evolution walking ignorantly and blindly, it's blind faith at best.

Originally posted by Alliance

Second this statement implies that we are bad people for not bowing to the irrevocable dictatorship of one god. I must say there are many dictators in the world...and I think no man should cower in front of any of them.

YES! YES! That is exactly what im talking about. God forces you into his religion. If you don't obey me you go to hell! I used to be afraid to even consider God not being real, because i was afraid of hell.
When i was a dedicated Catholic i always hated myself for some reason because i wasn't perfecting some different Catholic technique.

Originally posted by justbyfaith
We are bad people.

"All have sinned and fall short..."

"The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is Christ Jesus the Lord."

Accept Him not reject Him.

We all will bow down before Him anyway Alliance. Why not start now while He is Savior instead of Judge?

This is plain wrong, people should not hate themselves, over someone elses written rules. Sinning is natural we are natural sinners, it is nothing but instinct, morals are needed though. But as long as we keep to reasonable morals we should not hate ourself.