Would Vader and Sidious survive as Sith during the Golden age of the Sith?

Lightsnake was ahead of his time.

Palpatine would walk up to Ragnos and take his head.

The only Sith I can think of that could have any chance of even competing with Palpatine [those before Bane] would probably be like, Nihilus... MAYBE Valkorian. Yeah that's about it.

Trip down memory lane here.

Tbh I don't think Sheev is matched by any other Sith in history. But I do want to know where Nihilus fits into this, personally. Especially since he hasn't been mentioned AT ALL yet. I get the impression that he's a lot more powerful than most of the ancient Sith. Kreia herself says that he learnt the "greatest" of the Sith teachings. Which I assume means he learnt how to drain the force, though the drawback is that he loses control over the force and hunger ... it controls him. Then again, this control over him already started when he realised that killing someone and draining them made him even more hungry.

Originally posted by samappo
Tbh I don't think Sheev is matched by any other Sith in history. But I do want to know where Nihilus fits into this, personally.

Nihilus has some truly monstrous feats, but powerscaling doesn't always do him very well. I could buy him being on novel Vitiate's tier tbh.

Originally posted by samappo
Tbh I don't think Sheev is matched by any other Sith in history. But I do want to know where Nihilus fits into this, personally.

What's "lulSheev" ?

I don't see Bane being able to even stand a chance against Nihilus tbh. I feel like Nihilus would ragdoll Bane. But don't quote me on it. Just my gut feeling on the matter.

Kreia also says in the Dark Side route that Nihilus' power will /only/ rival "some of the ancient Sith" so he does know the Siths greatest tech but raw power wise is still below at least the Ancients Kreia mentioned. She said this in the DS route of tth Jedi enclave where you kill all the Jedi masters.

Palpatine>Ragnos>Nihilus.

Originally posted by samappo
What's "lulSheev" ?

I don't see Bane being able to even stand a chance against Nihilus tbh. I feel like Nihilus would ragdoll Bane. But don't quote me on it. Just my gut feeling on the matter.

Nihilus has far better feats, yeah.

Well luckily I've started a Dark Side character, very keen for the Kreia talks throughout the game ... very well the best written Star Wars character imo.

Anyway, I guess the implication by Kreia is that it is the "greatest" of Sith teachings, but also that raw power can overturn him, IF it's massively strong enough. So like, Sidious level basically...

I can just see Sidious creating a black hole and swallowing Nihilus in it.

Originally posted by samappo
What's "lulSheev" ?

Oh, I thought it meant a certain variation of him, such as a young Sheev or something.

Revan, the Ancient Sith, Vitiate. Each are more conventionally powerful and masterful than Nihilus. But that's because neither of those things can be used to describe Nihilus. He's got the best feats in the mythos tbh.

What's your reasoning behind best feats in the Mythos? Genuinely curious. I'm trying to gauge Nihilus against Sidious/Valkorian.

the guy instadrained a planet thoughtlessly etc whereas Valky needed stuff to do that, and Palps needed years of gradual draining

i actually fully understand what AP is talking about tbh

Yeah but Nihilus's planet eating is kinda a bit of a savant skill.

yeah, but as a single feat in itself it's absolute top

Nihilus paid the price for an almost invincible technique. He no longer controlled himself basically.

of course they would; the most powerful Sith of all time and his apprentice the Chosen One?? are you kidding me