Obsession Assajj Ventress Vs TPM Darth Maul

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Originally posted by jollyjim311
He was trained by Sidious, and... http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=13&f=13&name=Darth_Maul_4_of_4

From there on, you can just hit the next button to see the fight.

Edititfied: Sorry, this was the link I meant: http://www.swcomics.com/Republic_Era_c.php?i=17&f=13&name=Darth_Maul_4_of_4


Well, the Force lightning did bring him to his knees, he just had the force of will to ignore it and continue, and while I agree, Dooku's Force lightning knocked Assajj out, I don't think either her or Maul can cast it, so it wouldn't have an impact on their fight.

jollyjim311 Scruffy Nerf Herder

I don't think it's that specific. If it's a force fight, Maul has an edge.

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Originally posted by jollyjim311
I don't think it's that specific. If it's a force fight, Maul has an edge.

How would he have an edge? In CW, Assajj's control of the Force was impressive to say the least. She was able to manipulate some objects without even having to use the Gestures of Influence that most Jedi do. Maul was never shown to be able to do that in TPM.

jollyjim311 Scruffy Nerf Herder

In the Clone Wars series Padawan Anakin is better than ROTS Yoda with the force. You can't take it seriously.

kamikz A.I.M Mercenary

In several comics Assaj is damn good with the force too, like disabling Kenobi from doing a single move....

There is a difference between a night sister (which Maul clamed knew nothing of the dark side) and Count Dooku (80 year old jedi/sith with damn good force abilities).

jollyjim311 Scruffy Nerf Herder

True, but the Counts lightning was casual, and the Nightsisters' was using a lot of effort.

Also, Kenobi had the shit kicked out of him when Asajj did that, if I remember correctly.

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Originally posted by jollyjim311
In the Clone Wars series Padawan Anakin is better than ROTS Yoda with the force.

Anakin always was more powerfull than Yoda, even in TPM.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
You can't take it seriously.

Clone Wars is canon, so it can indeed be taken seriously.

jollyjim311 Scruffy Nerf Herder

So the one EU source you accept is the one that helps to prove your point, and it completely over the top?! Wow. Yoda would beat Anakin, and you saying that TPM Anakin is good is bull. He is a small boy with good reflexes. He just has more potential than Yoda.

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Originally posted by jollyjim311
So the one EU source you accept is the one that helps to prove your point, and it completely over the top?!

Clone Wars is canon, not EU.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Yoda would beat Anakin

He probably would beat Anakin, but only because he has much more experience and is a more stable person. That does not mean that he is more powerfull than Anakin.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
and you saying that TPM Anakin is good is bull. He is a small boy with good reflexes. He just has more potential than Yoda.

He had a higher midi-chlorian count than Yoda. He was more powerfull. He was just not as disciplined.

kamikz A.I.M Mercenary

Originally posted by jollyjim311
True, but the Counts lightning was casual, and the Nightsisters' was using a lot of effort.

Also, Kenobi had the shit kicked out of him when Asajj did that, if I remember correctly.

We don't know how long he did it, we just saw he did it to Assaj, then moments or maybe hours later she awakens in a bed.....

Hmmm I don't remember, that might have been the case. But either way Maul did not do anything near that impressive. Assaj for example, pushed masters and other jedi far, far away, while Maul's push barley made Kenobi trip...

She would also easily figure out Maul's way of fighting, and see his weakness, that's what she does best...

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Originally posted by Darth Vious
Was she capable of casting it herself though? If she can't, then any resistance Maul has would be an irrelevent ability...

It proved his strength. If he can resist it but she can't then that's a point for Maul.
There is a difference between a night sister (which Maul clamed knew nothing of the dark side)

"A Nightsister. A witch of Dathomir, skilled in the use of the Dark Side of the Force." - Darth Maul to Maghella

Sure she's not as strong with the Force as Dooku is, but like jollyhim311 said, Dooku was just toying with Asajj, not going all-out on her, Maghella was trying her hardest. Abd later when he tells her she knows nothing of the Dark Side, he's taunting her, he wants her to fear him, obviously she knows the Dark Side, cause if she didn't how could she use lightning?

I now say Maul beats Asajj. He took out the entire Black Sun syndicate with ease, the only part that was even a challenge for him was beating Maghella and he did that fairly quickly.

kamikz A.I.M Mercenary

How would resisting lightning make him win the battle? Assaj doesn't even use lightning. And Dooku was a hell of alot stronger, that witch said he resisted, not because Darth Maul is Darth Maul, but because he was a sith. She was surprised how he could manage to continue fighting and realised that he was a sith. (Because he was used to the dark side).

Proof that Dooku toyed with her. He used one hand when firing at Yoda in AOTC, he used two against Assaj. We don't know for how long either, we saw her biting together while getting hit, then waking up later in a bed.... Assaj was far superior to Maul in the force, and in saber I think they are pretty equal, so I give it to Assaj....

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Bye baby.

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

How would resisting lightning make him win the battle? Assaj doesn't even use lightning.

Proved how strong he is. I already answered this, actually.
And Dooku was a hell of alot stronger, that witch said he resisted, not because Darth Maul is Darth Maul, but because he was a sith.

Yah, and if I was made a Sith today I could resist being electructed! ZOMG! Uh, no, being a Sith has nothing to do with being able to resist lightning, you have to be strong to do that. And yes Dooku's stronger, but he wasn't trying very hard and, wait, didn't I already go over this, too? How ironic. 😐
Proof that Dooku toyed with her. He used one hand when firing at Yoda in AOTC, he used two against Assaj. We don't know for how long either, we saw her biting together while getting hit, then waking up later in a bed.... Assaj was far superior to Maul in the force, and in saber I think they are pretty equal, so I give it to Assaj....

Uh, he was smiling, laughing, she didn't fly back like Anakin did. Yes, Asajj woke up later in a bed, that had to be a while later, didn't they fight during the night and when she woke up the sun was out? Yes, she was slightly stronger with the Force but with a saber? No, hell no, she couldn't do all the things Maul did. Plus Maul was betetr trained, stronger physically, he trained his entire life, he'd take Asajj.

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Originally posted by darthsith19
No, hell no, she couldn't do all the things Maul did. Plus Maul was betetr trained, stronger physically, he trained his entire life, he'd take Asajj.

Was Maul better trained though? Assaj had been trained by a Jedi Master (admitedly incompletely) but the trauma of that was what gave her her strength. CW makes it very clear what a gifted Force user she is, Maul on the other hand, always had to use Gestures of Influence to manipulate objects, Assajj didn't.

jollyjim311 Scruffy Nerf Herder

Go to swcomics.com. Read the Maul ones. Then come back. Asajj couldn't do all that.

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Originally posted by Darth Vious
Was Maul better trained though? Assaj had been trained by a Jedi Master (admitedly incompletely) but the trauma of that was what gave her her strength. CW makes it very clear what a gifted Force user she is, Maul on the other hand, always had to use Gestures of Influence to manipulate objects, Assajj didn't.

A Jedi Master trained Asajj not very well, then he died and she turned to the Dark Side, got a little training by Dooku and that's it. Maul was trained for 22 years solely to kill.

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Originally posted by darthsith19
A Jedi Master trained Asajj not very well, then he died and she turned to the Dark Side, got a little training by Dooku and that's it. Maul was trained for 22 years solely to kill.

Seeing as she achieved the level she did with incomplete training from her Jedi Master, it's pretty clear that Dooku did a good job in completing her training seeing the kind of Jedi she was capable of duelling and fighting against.

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Originally posted by Darth Vious
Seeing as she achieved the level she did with incomplete training from her Jedi Master, it's pretty clear that Dooku did a good job in completing her training seeing the kind of Jedi she was capable of duelling and fighting against.

When she first joined Dooku she wasn't that strong. Dooku didn't train he very much at all, sure he trained her some but mostly she got strong from fighting in the Clone Wars. Mostly. Maul, on the other hand, recieved top of the line training from Darth Sidious for 22 years straight.

kamikz A.I.M Mercenary

Originally posted by darthsith19
Proved how strong he is. I already answered this, actually.

Yah, and if I was made a Sith today I could resist being electructed! ZOMG! Uh, no, being a Sith has nothing to do with being able to resist lightning, you have to be strong to do that. And yes Dooku's stronger, but he wasn't trying very hard and, wait, didn't I already go over this, too? How ironic. 😐

Uh, he was smiling, laughing, she didn't fly back like Anakin did. Yes, Asajj woke up later in a bed, that had to be a while later, didn't they fight during the night and when she woke up the sun was out? Yes, she was slightly stronger with the Force but with a saber? No, hell no, she couldn't do all the things Maul did. Plus Maul was betetr trained, stronger physically, he trained his entire life, he'd take Asajj.

She wondered why it didn't effect him as much as others and came to the conclusion that he was a sith, one trained with the dark side. Maul said that she didn't know a shit about it. And just because the night sisters are trained with the dark side doesn't mean they have a strong potential or effective SITH lightning.....

Dooku wasn't laughing and smiling while shooting lightning at her, and we don't know for how long either. For what we know, they could've been standing there for one hour before Assaj fell.....

I'd say that Maul couldn't do the thing Assaj did either then....