Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
You haven't seen many movies, have you?
you need to stop with your sarcastic comments. You disliked the movie, that's great good for you i hope you're proud of yourself. Some of us really liked the movie. So instead of bashing those of us who enjoyed it just keep your comments to yourself.
Originally posted by 113
you need to stop with your sarcastic comments. You disliked the movie, that's great good for you i hope you're proud of yourself. Some of us really liked the movie. So instead of bashing those of us who enjoyed it just keep your comments to yourself.
No. Sorry. I like being sarcastic. Besides, this complaint is coming from a poster whose name is "Eat My Ass"?
My review:
Meh, as hokey as the originals...just with better special effects. Oddly amusing, but hardly movie gold. Felt like a soap opera with some fighting in between.
And Superboy is the worst movie decision since Greedo shooting first.
If you liked it, cool. There's plenty that it does well. But not enough for me, especially with some of the great comic films of the past few years.
C+
-DM
I was six years old when Superman the Movie hit theatres. Like the rest of the world, I was completely enthralled with Richard Donner's vision of the world's greatest superhero. With that said, I was expecting a lot from Bryan Singer. I was NOT disappointed.
I was the movie in IMAX 3D and, the not-quite-perfect 3D segments aside, after Supes' first heroic act I was hooked. I leaned over to my wife and said, "This is the coolest thing I have ever seen!"
Who is better than Superman? The answer is no one. I love how Singer captured the worldwide sense of awe and respect that humans show for Superman. I don't want to spoil it for anyone (*don't dead any further*).
The entire city looking up to see their savior falling from the sky; The utter silence following his impact with the ground; The police and fire departments rushing Superman's body to the hospital; Police standing guard outside his hospital room; The city at a standstill as a million people surrounded the hospital.
I don't mind admitting that it was hard for me to contain myself. My wife and daughter were not as successful in bottling their emotions and cried openly, as did much of the audience.
I refute any claims that Superman Returns was a poor offering. It captured perfectly a world where the ultimate hero is carried on the respect of the entire world. It showed the ultimate sacrifice Superman would make to protect the people of earth and the lengths to which his nemesis would go to to kill him.
I loved it, plain and simple. The DVD will take a prominent place in my collection. My experience at the movie theatre was almost spiritual in nature and will never be forgotten.
Love live Superman!
~Slowhand.
Originally posted by Slowhand
I was six years old when Superman the Movie hit theatres. Like the rest of the world, I was completely enthralled with Richard Donner's vision of the world's greatest superhero. With that said, I was expecting a lot from Bryan Singer. I was NOT disappointed.
I was the movie in IMAX 3D and, the not-quite-perfect 3D segments aside, after Supes' first heroic act I was hooked. I leaned over to my wife and said, "This is the coolest thing I have ever seen!"
Who is better than Superman? The answer is no one. I love how Singer captured the worldwide sense of awe and respect that humans show for Superman. I don't want to spoil it for anyone (*don't dead any further*).
The entire city looking up to see their savior falling from the sky; The utter silence following his impact with the ground; The police and fire departments rushing Superman's body to the hospital; Police standing guard outside his hospital room; The city at a standstill as a million people surrounded the hospital.
I don't mind admitting that it was hard for me to contain myself. My wife and daughter were not as successful in bottling their emotions and cried openly, as did much of the audience.
I refute any claims that Superman Returns was a poor offering. It captured perfectly a world where the ultimate hero is carried on the respect of the entire world. It showed the ultimate sacrifice Superman would make to protect the people of earth and the lengths to which his nemesis would go to to kill him.
I loved it, plain and simple. The DVD will take a prominent place in my collection. My experience at the movie theatre was almost spiritual in nature and will never be forgotten.
Love live Superman!
~Slowhand.
Supermans "fall from grace" is one of the best movie moments ever imo. Both times i saw it the theatre was in this collective sorrow for the character. The awe, gratefulness, and concern that the humans had for him while he was falling and afterwards was beautiful, no other way to put it. It reminded me of the scene in Spiderman 2 where Peter stops the runaway train and is so drained of energy he just faints from exhaustion and the people inside the train gentle bring him inside the train (jesus moment) and lay him on the floor. That moment as well as this moment in Superman almost made me cry, something i'm usually not capable of. It was powerful.
When I was in that theatre it was definetly a spiritual moment for me, something I'll never forget. I keep going back to see it because I want to relive that moment and it's a truelly beautiful piece of filmmaking.
Originally posted by roughrider
I'll give it a thumbs up, grade of B. I'm still chewing it over; when I see it again, I should have a better idea of what I think.
I just saw it again yesterday; it gains more on a second viewing. Now I see better what they were going for. Though I thought it needed tightning, I see they are going for a more lyrical feeling, and him trying to find his personal attachment to humankind, beyond the people in his life. It's the son. Though I could see that before, I now feel it better.
I've been late with my review, I saw this on 4th of July, but have been busy at work. 😛
Some backround info: I was a huge fan of all the Christopher Reeves movies as a kid, saw Lois & Clark not really knowing that it was a romantic comedy, read all the Doomsday/World without a Superman/Reign of the Supermen comics but no more than that (which according to many were the shit comics.), saw a few seasons of smallville, and am a pretty big fan.
More recently I saw all the docs about Superman on the Donner dvd's and went back to watch Superman and Superman II before seeing this film.
I was TOTALLY spoiled as to what would happen, and read both good reviews and all the complaints here.
To start: the opening credits sequences was GREAT! The whooshing credits, set to the John Williams Superman march, had me on the films side as it started, going through what I realized was Supermans journey back to earth only near the end of it. 😄
(Seeing Krypton in the beginning there was a nice nod to the older films.)
The early parts with Clark on the farm were great, loved the flashback scenes, which just felt like an expansion of young Clark racing the train in the first film.
The intro of Lex was more humorous than threatening, but I didn't mind it much.
Routh as Clark was great, and I enjoyed all the scenes that he played as him. As Superman he is...very good. (a step shy of great, but I have hope for him. Still, very good.)
Seeing the Daily Planet stuff was good, but it felt like a new version, DP 2.0 rather than the old place remodeled. (I wonder if that makes sense to anybody other than me?)
The Lex plot of going back to the Fortess of Solitude and stealing the crystals to make his own continent was the PERFECT plan....
If you are really remembering films I and II, and taking this as III.
It continues off of him being there in II ("You act like you've been here before"😉 🙂, and is in-line with his land-loving ways in I and II.
The Superman/Lois dynamic was good, and I felt like they were pretty close to how the characters should be if they were the ones from the first films in these situations.
The only drawback is Bosworth, who does well enough, but is so YOUNG looking that it sort of pulls you out of it. (Kudos to Singer though, for thinking ahead to the sequels.)
The little tips of the hat to all the Superman stuff of the past, like him holding Kitty's mustang over his head ala Action Comics #1, or the little tag saying "Addas Abbaba-1978" next to the Kryptonite in the museum, were great, and I felt that the re-iteration of some lines/themes like Kitty saying "Get out" to Lex's question about his fathers advice, or "Still the safest way to travel" from Supes were meant to line up with the universe that this movie is in, not to be a re-hash.
It had the desired effect on me, as I found myself grinning at each of the above mentioned things, rather than groaning.
Action: Was top-notch and great for both a Superman film and a summer-adventure movie.
Acting: Great from Routh, and REALLY great from Spacey.
Being from an inner-city as a teen, I personally loved how Lex was still sophisticated, clever, and evil, but had been through enough in life to know that the way to get Supes was to catch him off guard, weaken him, then have your homies beat his ass before you stick him in the back.
I had read about that scene but was still breathless as it happened.
GREAT character arc for the movie version of Luthor that we have come to know.
Story: I dug it. Supes having a kid was fine by me, again it matches this movie up to I and II.
I have to say that I enjoyed this movie thoroughly, I had expected that I would, but was slightly cautious due to all the b!tching here and at AICN.
Those folks who didn't like it were looking for something different, I guess.
I was looking for a great new Superman movie, one that complimented the earlier films, while continuing the story of those characters.
I found what I was looking for.
9/10.
6/10
Superman is my favorite superhero but Spiderman pt. 1 and Batman Begins were, in my opinion, better movies.
I expected more from Superman Returns. I didn't like how it supposedly took place right after Superman II (wtf).
-Other factors that made it not to great a movie, imo:
-Him having a sick kid.
-Too many lovey dovey scenes.
-I didn't like Routh's look meaning his body frame. He looks like a Superboy. He looks like he could play in "Smallville". Metropolis Superman should look 30, 35. Routh looked 18, 21.
-His voice wasn't as effective. he sounded kinda geeky as a matter of fact.
-Superman going to the hospital. (wtf) ?
And more...
I found more thing wrong with it that right. which was hardly the case with Spidey 1 a B.B.
Was gonna make a seperate thread for this, but seeing as the first post in this thread was a review, i may as well just follow suit...
Superman Returns… spoilers, so be wary…
Okay, so I went to see this movie having been largely disappointed by Brian Singers X-Men efforts, and I have to say, knowing that James Marsden (who forever will be on my to kill list for ruining Cyclops) was in the movie hadn’t helped either. But I gave it a fair chance, and being a big Supes fan I hoped for the best.
Okay, so lets get the bad out of the way first (and there’s quite a bit of it). Singer is obviously trying to recreate past glories by heavily emulating the Chris Reeve movies of the past, and while in parts it is charming, I really think that he should have gone with a more modern take on the man of steel. But hey, that’s just me…
Routh’s uncanny resemblance to Chris Reeve, to me, was a bit unsettling. It seemed like that was one of the main reasons that he was cast, but that shouldn’t take away from the fact that he made a fair effort to portray Clark and Superman’s differing personas as best he could. He was pretty muscular (though I dunno if that was cgi or not), but imo he still looks too young. If it was a Superman story based in the early years, then I think he’d be a decent fit.
Spacey, I have to admit, I was sooo looking forward to seeing how he portrayed Luthor. I was so certain he was gonna ace the role, but alas, I was wrong. Imo, he was all wrong as Luthor. Maybe a victim of bad writing, it felt like he was replicating Hackman’s Luthor, but ten times more of everything. Which was dumb imo…
Bosworth… Shit… I can’t believe I read the other day that she was voted the best Lois Lane… By who? Her fan club and Orlando Bloom? Imo she’s nowhere near the same level as Kidder or Hatcher. Both of them were far better Lois’ imo, and a kid? Seriously? How old is she? She looks about 21… And how much of this damn movie does she have to be in? Its meant to be Superman Returns, not ‘Superman Returns and we’ll see how Lois feels about it’ for chrissakes…
The supporting cast (Perry, Jimmy, Richard, Kitty), I suppose were ok. Nothing terrible (except Jimmy’s bowtie, wtf?), nothing spectacular either.
The fact that Luthor was the villain annoyed me. Why not Doomsday? Brainiac? Anyone but Luthor, he’s been done, and done very well, so why not a change?
The costume… the blue is too pale, the red too dark, and the S is too small imo…
Now, the GOOD…
The effects are, simply put, f*cking awesome. They’re utilised almost perfectly, most notably during the plane sequence. I felt like a little kid again watching it. I can’t stress how good it was, and imo its up there with ANY scene from a comic book movie, hell, it could be the best action scene in a comic movie to use cgi… EVER.
On the whole, any part where he’s actually Superman and doing something, is great. As good as any superhero movie scene showing off the hero’s abilities… When he’s in space, when he’s lifting the Island, when he’s saving Metropolis, all great. There just wasn’t enough of it. There needed to be a hell of a lot more action…
On the whole, its not a great movie, but we finally get to see what modern cinema can do to show off Superman and his range of abilities. That alone is worth the price of admission alone. The lacklustre plot and acting do very little to help, so it aint gonna win any oscars…
If you like Supes, go see it and then decide for yourself…
I would have to agree as a Huge Smallville and Superman Fan, I had big expectations for this movie. After leaving the cinema though I felt jibbed, it plainly sucked, where was the action? Most dramatic scene was Superman lifting up a big rock and throwing it into space. WOW!!!
F%#k yeah that was awesome script writing great stuff. Let's not make the story a little more modern, people wanna see some ultimate show down in most superhero acion films, not throwing an island into space...Lame, I am really dissapointed as a Superman fan . Kevin Spacy as Lex Luthor was ok, but like the above mentioned too similar to Gene Hackman, should have been darker nature/ personality. Lois Lane was hot but that is all, far too young and not strong enough a character as the old Lois Lane's were. The superkid angle = lame. Cyclops Dude = Lame, Superman = Good character good pick as Superman, however his Clark kent persona was lacking. An setting up a sequel at the end of the film as a redeeming quality would have been good, like Brainac or Darkseid watching and plotting. I mean come on , give us something not some PG13 rated movie with no depth. I hate to say all the above and eagerly await being flamed however I have bottled this up for too long, sorry to offend those who liked the film, however the true Superman fans know there was something missing in this film as we walked out of the cinema, The somber mood of the previous audience exiting the Superman Returns screening should have been a dead give away for me. Once again this is how I feel, At first I defended the film after watching it, however it is no use, people dont care about Supes anymore he is considered washed up by some. I have to agree, Superman Returns Sequel has to have a massively better storyling - Darkseid! Darkseid! Darkseid!
Originally posted by Xman Unleashed
I would have to agree as a Huge Smallville and Superman Fan, I had big expectations for this movie. After leaving the cinema though I felt jibbed, it plainly sucked, where was the action? Most dramatic scene was Superman lifting up a big rock and throwing it into space. WOW!!!
F%#k yeah that was awesome script writing great stuff. Let's not make the story a little more modern, people wanna see some ultimate show down in most superhero acion films, not throwing an island into space...Lame, I am really dissapointed as a Superman fan . Kevin Spacy as Lex Luthor was ok, but like the above mentioned too similar to Gene Hackman, should have been darker nature/ personality. Lois Lane was hot but that is all, far too young and not strong enough a character as the old Lois Lane's were. The superkid angle = lame. Cyclops Dude = Lame, Superman = Good character good pick as Superman, however his Clark kent persona was lacking. An setting up a sequel at the end of the film as a redeeming quality would have been good, like Brainac or Darkseid watching and plotting. I mean come on , give us something not some PG13 rated movie with no depth. I hate to say all the above and eagerly await being flamed however I have bottled this up for too long, sorry to offend those who liked the film, however the true Superman fans know there was something missing in this film as we walked out of the cinema, The somber mood of the previous audience exiting the Superman Returns screening should have been a dead give away for me. Once again this is how I feel, At first I defended the film after watching it, however it is no use, people dont care about Supes anymore he is considered washed up by some. I have to agree, Superman Returns Sequel has to have a massively better storyling - Darkseid! Darkseid! Darkseid!
Gasp! Other people actually thought the movie was bad too. I was beginning to think I was the only crank on this board.