Originally posted by FujiFuu
please do I beg
First of all, Hulk would be taken down because the man is just too damn uni-dimensional. Hulk is some place where he has no business being. Hulk's head would spin at how much raw power would be on the JLA team. Genis, Thor, and Surfer might as well not even have Hulk on their side. He gets taken down like I said within the very first few minutes, if that. Surfer would be given a good fight by Hal alone, however when you add Kyle into the equation, they would double team him and kick the crap outta him. There is really nothing that Surfer can do that the GLs can't. Genis-Vell also would be given a good fight by one of those Dr. Fates, but considering they have the entire line-up of Dr. Fates, Genis goes down hard. Now, the great weapon that the JLA posses, is Phantom Stranger. PS is skyfather level. Rune King Thor(SLIGHTLY)>Phantom Stranger. However, PS and the remaining 60-70 league members beat on RKT long enough for Zatanna to say "Rune King Thor dies" backwards. JLA win.
Originally posted by Soleran
I will though, SS speedblitz's everyone and turns them into mushrooms. Quantity doesn't equal quality, bam JLA just smoked.
doh
Please don't start the whole Silver Surfer arguement. SS would get a good fight by Hal alone, however add in Kyle and they beat the living tar out of him. That is unless SS blinks them both out of existence. 🙄
Originally posted by batdude123
First of all, Hulk would be taken down because the man is just too damn uni-dimensional. Hulk is some place where he has no business being. Hulk's head would spin at how much raw power would be on the JLA team. Genis, Thor, and Surfer might as well not even have Hulk on their side. He gets taken down like I said within the very first few minutes, if that. Surfer would be given a good fight by Hal alone, however when you add Kyle into the equation, they would double team him and kick the crap outta him. There is really nothing that Surfer can do that the GLs can't. Genis-Vell also would be given a good fight by one of those Dr. Fates, but considering they have the entire line-up of Dr. Fates, Genis goes down hard. Now, the great weapon that the JLA posses, is Phantom Stranger. PS is skyfather level. Rune King Thor(SLIGHTLY)>Phantom Stranger. However, PS and the remaining 60-70 league members beat on RKT long enough for Zatanna to say "Rune King Thor dies" backwards. JLA win.
I didn't even factor the hulk into the marvel team winning. (BTW, who takes him out in the first minutes) Secondly, if RTK thor uses his raw power over a large range, it doesn't matter if Phantom Stranger is Skyfather level, because he will be the only person left. A full powered silver surfer using all of his power and speed, would completely obliterate any GL, or any group of GL's along with the rest of that JLA team.
Originally posted by FujiFuu
I didn't even factor the hulk into the marvel team winning. (BTW, who takes him out in the first minutes) Secondly, if RTK thor uses his raw power over a large range, it doesn't matter if Phantom Stranger is Skyfather level, because he will be the only person left. A full powered silver surfer using all of his power and speed, would completely obliterate any GL, or any group of GL's along with the rest of that JLA team.
Completely wrong again. Hal would give him one hell of a fight, you are completely underrestimating SS. Kyle and Hal together would murder Surfer. Who could take down Hulk so quickly? Use your imagination. Look at the list of members that golem posted. Genis is taken down by the Dr. Fates. That leaves the rest of the league to focus their attention on RKT. Phantom Stranger alone would prove to be one hell of a challenge to him. He would at least provide enough of a distraction for Zatanna to do her thing. JLA win.
i don´t think you are giving genis vell enough credit he´s more powerful then king thor and ss.
form wikipedia:
"It also should be noted that while at first, unexperienced, as "Legacy", he wasnt even on the level of power of the Silver Surfer, but as time went on, and he developed his powers and his experience using them, and he got to the point where he was almost on the Silver Surfer's former Master's level, the immense Galactus himself. For example, when he was flaunting his powers in his Insane period, he fought and won a battle against all of the Asgardians by himself, including Thor who had the Odinforce, who was referred to as Lord Thor. More recently, as Photon, he easily bested the Sentry, who is considered to be Marvel Earth's most powerful hero."
Originally posted by batdude123
[Completely wrong again. Hal would give him one hell of a fight, you are completely underrestimating SS . Kyle and Hal together would murder Surfer. Who could take down Hulk so quickly? Use your imagination. Look at the list of members that golem posted. Genis is taken down by the Dr. Fates. That leaves the rest of the league to focus their attention on RKT. Phantom Stranger alone would prove to be one hell of a challenge to him. He would at least provide enough of a distraction for Zatanna to do her thing. JLA win.
I think your the one doing the underestimation. Remember in the Red Son superman, when superman takes all the rings from the GL's and says something along the lines of a weapon that works at the speed of thought isn't much use against someone who can move faster than thought. Whats to stop Surfer from transmuting everyone into a big pile of dog crap faster than even the flash can react?
Originally posted by Loot
i don´t think you are giving genis vell enough credit is more powerful then king thor and ss.form wikipedia:
"It also should be noted that while at first, unexperienced, as "Legacy", he wasnt even on the level of power of the Silver Surfer, but as time went on, and he developed his powers and his experience using them, and he got to the point where he was almost on the Silver Surfer's former Master's level, the immense Galactus himself. For example, when he was flaunting his powers in his Insane period, he fought and won a battle against all of the Asgardians by himself, including Thor who had the Odinforce, who was referred to as Lord Thor. More recently, as Photon, he easily bested the Sentry, who is considered to be Marvel Earth's most powerful hero."
I'm giving Genis all the credit he deserves. People keep using the death of Eternity as a feat. First of all, Eternity wanted to die, and on top of that, Genis had Entropy by his side. Apparently, you're not giving Dr. Fate enough credit. One Fate would probably stalemate Genis, then add in all the others and it becomes really one-sided.
Originally posted by FujiFuu
I think your the one doing the underestimation. Remember in the Red Son superman, when superman takes all the rings from the GL's and says something along the lines of a weapon that works at the speed of though isn't much use against someone who can move faster than though. Whats to stop Surfer from transmuting everyone into a big pile of dog crap faster than even the flash can react?
GLs job all the time. Just like Silver Surfer does. What's to stop a GL from sending him to another dimension, or tear out his soul, or create a black hole or worm hole, or transmutate SS himself into crap. The door swings both ways. However, Kyle has flown from one end of the universe to the other in under a day. 😉
Originally posted by batdude123
Kyle and Hal together would murder Surfer.
They mental reaction are still human ....... or above.
as Superman showed when Superman was using speed ...... GL couldn't see him.
Originally posted by batdude123
dohPlease don't start the whole Silver Surfer arguement. SS would get a good fight by Hal alone, however add in Kyle and they beat the living tar out of him. That is unless SS blinks them both out of existence. 🙄
How would the GL's give a good fight to a guy that can travel hundreds of light years in seconds use his cosmicawareness to sense his intended victims then powercosmic them to space terds............