god like cable vs silver surfer (bloodlust)

Started by dude1894 pages

either way, surfer and his board have been stated as being made of the same material. you take something with the same chemical makeup and somehow make it denser, it is no longer that materiel.

how about graphite and dimonds, if i had a stick of graphite to use in a pencil and a dimond in a ring, would you say they are the same material, hellz no! If you say yes, try convincing your girlfriend that next christmas. They are after all both made of pure carbon right?

the reason dimonds are denser is not because they are denser graphite. with that logic, you could simply crush graphite into dimonds. If you were to atempt that, the graphite would simply fall apart. Dimonds are dense because of how they are formed in the first place, or rather because of how the molecular structure is arranged. If you have a different molecular structure, you have a different material.

Would he be able to react even if he sees him going at light speed, i mean he doesnt have that kind of reaction speed. SS would be going at multipule light speed. Anyhow i think SS would still take it.

check the cable respect thread, it shows him going up against someone moving at that speed and tracking + intercepting his movements.

Going at multiple light speed, how could a human react at that speed.

heres an overly simplified way of looking at it

full potential cable == the pheonix force > Galactus > Silver Surfer

means

Cable > Silver Surfer see? 😛

im not saying cable would win, theres not enough information out there to make a real assessment. I just think its a bit rediculus to disregard cable so easily. He is after all the apex of the mutant gene.

his powers move at the speed of thought.
If you think thats slow, keep in mind that he is the worlds most powerfull psychic.

Hes been shown to deal with super speed before, i dont know why you keep bringing it up...

Full potential Cable is not pheonix force that would be like full potential Cable>>>>>>>>>>LT. Nobody is disregarding Cable so easily, at the least not me. It just that I have not seen enough feat for God Cable to take out SS. I have checked Cable respect tread and i have all those comics thats being posted but none of them are at SS caliber, until we see more of God Cable feat, ill go for SS, just so much versatility.

the reason I say full potential cable equals the pheonix force is due to a cable issue where they find out about xman, and they show his power signature next to the pheonix force, and it is nearly identical.

XMan is basicly Cable from an alternet dimention in case you are unaware.

Yes, I know of X-man, Cable, The rest of X series, still collect them.
The Phoenix force cannot be measured in any signature energy machine, its the creation force in the multiverse, having that kind of power would be just below TOAA.

Originally posted by Rols
The Phoenix force cannot be measured in any signature energy machine, its the creation force in the multiverse

well like a lot of things in this debate, its up to the current writer. some writers have said it was jean all along (bs imo)

but i dont know, mabey it was in reference to jeans power levels when she was being enhabited by the pheonix force.

*interesting note Stryfe (cables clone) sacrificed himself battling "Le Bete Noir" and destroyed them both, a being who is supposto be the polar opposit of the pheonix force.

Originally posted by dude189
heres an overly simplified way of looking at it

full potential cable == the pheonix force > Galactus > Silver Surfer

means

Cable > Silver Surfer see? 😛

im not saying cable would win, theres not enough information out there to make a real assessment. I just think its a bit rediculus to disregard cable so easily. He is after all the apex of the mutant gene.

People throw around the word potential like it has some significant underlying value attached to it. It doesn't, Cable is human and his powers were burning out fighting SS.

As much as it would be cool for Cable to win he wouldn't, SS if he wanted to Slaughter that pitiful human ( I did say human as in human durability) SS could go to the out part of the solar system and just PC Cable and cure his mutant gene.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
When hes riding it is when its as durable as Surfer.

Thats when Cable did it.

Most characters who break Surfers board knock him off first.


It sounds like you made that up with absolutely no comic evidence except for the fact it's much easier to destroy something when someone who can ziltch a planet isn't riding on it.
Originally posted by dude189
either way, surfer and his board have been stated as being made of the same material. you take something with the same chemical makeup and somehow make it denser, it is no longer that materiel.

how about graphite and dimonds, if i had a stick of graphite to use in a pencil and a dimond in a ring, would you say they are the same material, hellz no! If you say yes, try convincing your girlfriend that next christmas. They are after all both made of pure carbon right?

the reason dimonds are denser is not because they are denser graphite. with that logic, you could simply crush graphite into dimonds. If you were to atempt that, the graphite would simply fall apart. Dimonds are dense because of how they are formed in the first place, or rather because of how the molecular structure is arranged. If you have a different molecular structure, you have a different material.


So I guess the question is... what is the composition of Surfer's cosmic glaze? How thick is it compared to his board? Does this material have different types? Does it even abide by the laws of science? It's like solid power cosmic isn't it?

you know what cabes is supposedly no match for supes, so why should he stand a chance here.

Surfer wins this so easily it isn't funny.

Originally posted by bigbran
you know what cabes is supposedly no match for supes, so why should he stand a chance here.

While that is the case here, different powersets means who can beat who isn't always transitive.

i guess if he cant beat supes, supes could beat surfer if he was sundipped since he beat darkseid who's durability is even greater then surfer's

Originally posted by Mider
i guess if he cant beat supes, supes could beat surfer if he was sundipped since he beat darkseid who's durability is even greater then surfer's

How many times has he done that? I know there's the one time where he took Darkseid to the Sun and fought around it and the one time he actually took a dip into the Sun then moved... Warworld was it?

Originally posted by Mider
i guess if he cant beat supes, supes could beat surfer if he was sundipped since he beat darkseid who's durability is even greater then surfer's

A sundipped Supes would lose aswell think about it Surfer has absorbed Suns with no problem.

*interesting note Stryfe (cables clone) sacrificed himself battling "Le Bete Noir" and destroyed them both, a being who is supposto be the polar opposit of the pheonix force.

The first fallen is supposedly the polar opposite of the Phoenix force in the recent issues of Uncanny X-men.

lol way to go marvel! 1 more screwup

anywho, "Le Bete Noir" was concieved in the bishop miniseries a few years back. The whole stryfe storyline was freaking horrible. Im of the theory that Stryfe just screwed with everyones head, its only way to explain how everyone was so outta character, and how the plot made no sense.