Originally posted by Jyppe
Batman has dodged bullets? Comic bullets always job. Hell, I bet Aunt may could dodge bullets (She would propably fall over by accident and then fanboys would come screaming "Zomg! May has superhuman reflexes! She could propably take Spiderman!!!111Eleven"😉
...That made me laugh at loud. And I'm at work.
Kudos, my friend.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...That made me laugh at loud. And I'm at work.Kudos, my friend.
I hope that's a good thing, I would feel quite bad if my post got you fired 😛 Glad ya like it.
IRT topic.
This is just going to be an opinion match up. Batman fanboys argue for Batman and Blade fanboys argue for Blade. You think strength and speed don't count for a sh*t. You act like Blade doesn't have the skill to beat Bats? Riiiight. Sure he's not as skilled as Batman is but his above human stats should affect the match.
In a melee match, Blade has one major advantage Batman lacks, his sword.
But to be honest.. at times Blade hasn't had his superpowers (He has been portrayed as a "normal" human being. With no addinational powers at all. 🙄 But that Blade on the other hand WAS lot more skilled than the "normal" Blade.) Bah, go figure.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
If written correctly Bats shouldn't win any matches now that I think about it
Big friggin' deal. Marvel vampires are jokes. They suck horribly. Seriously, I don't know why Blade is considered a huge deal, when people like Tim Drake could probably take out like 10-15 of them by himself. To be honest, Blade is not that big of a hotshot. His martial arts status when in comparison to Batman is just like having a retard flailing his arms about. 🙄 Vampires in Marvel are impressive compared to regular humans, however, you know what’s more impressive??? Batman.
Blade is a good swordsman, however it would mean d*ck because Batman's already taken out stronger, faster, and just all around better martial artists than him. So tell me, why again does Blade get so much praise??? His healing factor in the scheme of things means absolutely d*ck because it is so slight, and also Batman's armor makes him more durable. Come to think of it, Blade has got him beat in strength. That's it!! That also doesn't mean crap anyway because Batman has taken down far stronger opponents than just class 2.
Yep, Blade has weapons. Wouldn't really amount to much because not only is Batman's armor bulletproof, but he also would just evade the fire like normal. Nothing new in the life of Bruce Wayne. Seriously, Ra's Al Guhl>>>>>>>>>>Blade, and we all know that Batman makes Ra's Al Guhl look like a retarded school boy when they fight.
I'm sorry, I'm just not buying the fact that Blade would be able to take Bats. Batman for the win 7-8/10.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
Bah I had a long argument typed out but realized your whole argument was Bats beats Blade just because (and don't you dare say that Bats is any better at H2H then Blade is with a sword).
Yeah, actually it is. I seem to remember that Blade got punked in a h2h fight against GAMBIT. Blade would be hard pressed to slash Batman up in his armor, besides Luthor has already stabbed Batman to no avail. It didn't effect him in the slightest bit and then he ended up kicking Luthor out the window of a building. Seriously, read this:
Batman is a master of Haragei, a master who has expanded his physical senses over this plane of existence to another and thus becoming hyper aware of his surroundings without appearing to really being anything different from others. He is keenly aware of everything going on around him and also the microscopic and the astral world around himself. Furthermore he can feel that world around himself and thus being one of the most difficult targets for telepathy and also telepathic obfuscation. Along these lines the Bat has learnt and masters both the Sakki and Kiai. Kiai is the ability to feel the intent and thus be able to act accordingly. However Sakki is the force of the intention and with these three pillars the Bat can take the physical battle to another level, to the psychological, the mental plane. The Sakki and Kiai, completed with the mastery of Haragei can be used as physical weapons, a force of wills where every blow is even stronger than the physical ones. As a ninja and a master of haragei, Batman has learnt to cope without his sensory input, making him able to fight and function without any sort of handicap should he lose his sight or hearing, or other senses. The fact is that the Bat is far beyond the human senses and even though they are handy, they're not needed.
Chi is another facet and a tactic the Batman uses, much like Sakki, it can be projected through the combat. Batman has been shown, on numerous occasions, to be able to perform feats impossible to humans. He has been shown to kick down trees, punch through concrete and mortar walls. He has been shown to be able to lift up a stone totem that weighed over a ton. He can project his Chi out of his body and aid him physically, because of this it is no big feat for him to punch through living trees and walls. By focusing his Chi inside his body he can ignore the physical damage and pain he receives. Through his training, Batman has trained himself to ignore exhaustion, sleep deprivation, emotions and also pain and agony. To anyone looking at the Bat, there is nothing remotely human about him other than the chin. As a Bat, when under control, he feels no emotions, no fear, no love, he is completely indifferent to the world around himself and thus he is in tune with it as Tao teaches. He flows from one motion to another in the river of life, this granting him the sixth sense, intuism he always listens to, the thing that has saved his life on many occasions.
This form, this Tao was taught to him by Mistress Shao-La in the Himalayas. Bruce Wayne had heard about a master with great power residing in the mountains and the young boy wanted to learn more. He went to the master who'd teach him the Tao and also self-control. The light side of this force would give him the control over his emotions and the ability to be in tune with the world, but it wasn't enough for him. Bruce Wayne wanted power, true power and after Shao-La told him about Master H'Sien Tan he would venture out there and learn.
From H'Sien Tan Bruce Wayne learnt the path of personal power. He learnt from the man that he had two destinies and by choosing one of them he'd receive everything he had ever wanted and the second would make him nearly omnipotent. This path would be the path of personal power he sought to avenge and to protect. In time it would also consume him. This little story is part of the package H'Sien Tan taught Bruce. The acceptance. The acceptance of one's fate, one's death and one's power. It was also a craft he taught to Bruce, to know, to feel the world and the energies around himself, to harness those energies and glean answers from them. This form of spiritualism has served Bruce well, but also it has twisted him and he has found ways to distort it, making him appear the victim even if he has wanted it. From H'Sien Tan he also learnt a way to control himself, not just his emotions but his body. Bruce is capable of, instinctually, command his body to stop bleeding, force healing on himself and even more importantly, he is able to ignore the toll exhaustion and the lack of sleep inflicts on him. Also Tan taught him the way to slow down his heart, the flow of his blood, to the level of dying and yet remaining alive.
The dark forces of Tao, the greed, is a powerful mistress and because of this the person who wields these arts needs to be mentally strong to wrest the control lest it controls him in his path to power. This dark art comprises partly of alchemy and magic mixed in with the mental control and hypnotism and this is the most formidable teaching Tan had to give Bruce.
Batman is able to force his presence on others, much like the way the Wrath of God appears. He can grow in people's minds, project his terror on them and destroy their minds, but at the same time he can push his presence inwardly and just disappear from their mind's eye, right in front of them and none will know how nor why. Furthermore he has learnt the power of suggestion, the ability to appear as something else to anyone and this is the key behind his quick costume changes and his disappearances. To add to this, his skills in these arts have given him a willpower matched by nearly none as he can ignore anything and go through stone and rock. The last skill Tan gave to Bruce was the art of the Tiger Fist, a punch so powerful it can rend through mountains, a skill, an art known to only 5 people on Earth and only 2 of them survive 'til this day.
As a ninja, a shadow assassin, Batman has been taught to use his surroundings to his advantage and so he knows when there are people in the correct vantage points, he knows how to conceal himself so that he is virtually invisible and he knows the ways to use the surroundings offensively. This lesson is part of the reason why the Bat was created in this visage. Bruce knows the hearts of the men and he can defeat them before engaging them in combat. In ancient times in Japan, the warrior caste, the Samurai, used the Ninja because their honor couldn't handle the deceitful tactics. However, Batman has no qualms with this and actually he uses quite a lot of deception as he does his work. Chu Chin Li and later on David Cain taught him the assassination tactics and skills, so he is aware of how a possible assassin will work and will think, and he can prepare against these situations.
Japanese sword fighting or Kendo is part of the Bushido class and way of life and also practiced by Batman and Bruce Wayne. From Bushido and Taothe Batman has taken the meditation skills taught to him by Shao-La for clearing his mind and his conscience, even if Alfred tends to call it brooding. Many a time the Bat has solved a case while meditating or sleeping, which is quite the same thing for him as he utilizes the sleeping techniques Shao-La taught him.
The ways of the Shadow Warrior are quite many and there are different rumors and different legends about the ninjas, and when concerning the Bat most of them hold true. However the main thing about the ninja is that they're adaptable and Batman has taken this strategy in his heart and cherishes it. He adapts to any situation and if he isn't able to conquer, he will find another way to do it.
Yeah, Blade goes down hard 7-8/10.
Not only has Blade never been punked by Gambit but the one time they did meet the only reason Gambit is still breathing was because his staff is pretty indestructible unless you got Superman esque level strength. Not to mention H2H is meaningless because Blade is farrr more likely to stick the end of his sword up Bats ass (and he's been training all his life and for the first oh say 25 or such years of his career his MO has been taking Deacon Frost level vamps with pure swordsmanship skill alone until he got a power up now he's overkill). And are you seriously comparing Lex Luthor stabbing Bats to BLADE?
Originally posted by B dot Rob
Not only has Blade never been punked by Gambit but the one time they did meet the only reason Gambit is still breathing was because his staff is pretty indestructible unless you got Superman esque level strength. Not to mention H2H is meaningless because Blade is farrr more likely to stick the end of his sword up Bats ass (and he's been training all his life and for the first oh say 25 or such years of his career his MO has been taking Deacon Frost level vamps with pure swordsmanship skill alone until he got a power up now he's overkill). And are you seriously comparing Lex Luthor stabbing Bats to BLADE?
Oh really? Because Blade is still a punk in terms of pure h2h skills when in comparison to Batman. Seriously, he would make him look like a child.
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You keep using Blade's sword as a reference to what you are arguing, when in fact Batman was defeated many swordsman before. Vampires in the Marvel universe are jokes. They aren't impressive at all and it's no wonder why Blade can pwn them. However, that doesn't equate to Blade pwning Batman. Blade's skills are RAT PUKE when you look at the vastness of Bruce's training. Seriously, there's a reason why Blade doesn't even rank in the top twenty in Marvel's top martial artists. In terms of physical status, Blade is stronger than him. That's about it. Even then, the fact that Blade has about 2 ton strength doesn't mean anything considering he has taken down MUCH stronger opponents in the past. In terms of attack speed and agility, they are about even however Batman has the durability advantage due to his armor. Blade would be hardpressed to slice up Batman's armor, especially considering he's outgunned horridly in the skills department. 😉
Not to mention the fact that Batman has a slew of weapons at his disposal, and with them he has taken down metahumans countless amounts of times. Blade would not be an exception. Blade has guns, a sword, and some vampire slaying weapons that wouldn't do much to Batman. Batman evades gunfire like it was his job, that's useless here. If you honestly believe Blade is going to take down Batman with a sword, you are sorely mistaken. Batman can ignore physical pain, and that's assuming Blade can even keep up with him while he has his sword.
Btw, the last part of your statement made me laugh. "And are you seriously comparing Lex Luthor stabbing Bats to BLADE?" 😆 What, do you think that if Blade stabs him, he's going to make the wound hurt anymore??? Also, that was while Lex was juiced on his serum and while he was in his battle armor, so nice try. You are seriously bordering on the fanboy lines here. Also, that was when Batman was wearing a skin tight suit, and not his armor. The stab to the abdomen had absolutely no effect of Bats, and he then procceeded to kick Luthor out the window.
I still really see no reason why Blade gets so much praise. When the guy actually takes down a person that means something in terms of h2h skill, let me know. 🙄 Cause honestly, he should stick to vampires. He's out of his league here, face it. Batman for the win 7-8/10.
Wow your whole argument is a joke. Blade's martial arts not top 10? HE'S A GOD DAMN SWORDSMAN WHO GIVES A **** ABOUT H2H! And in straight up bare bottom fist fight there's no way in hell Bats lasts unless he has his armor on. LMAO @ Bats ignoring being sliced in half by Blades sword and comparing Bats evading goons gunfire to a guy who shown the ability to fire his gun and tag a warehouse full of enemies so fast SPIDERMAN didn't even know what happened.
ROFL @ Your Lex statement. If Blade stabs him chances are it'll be in
A.) A vital area
B.) MUCH More then one stabbing motion
Seriously Batman is outgunned and outmatched. Blade has him beat in every category but H2H SKILL (OMG like Blade is even a fist fighter to begin with). The fact that your whole argument is Bats beats Blade just because shows that your nothing more then a Bat fanboy.
Damn I just realized how laughable your argument is. So now Blade is reduced to ONLY using H2H as a means of killing Bats. If Blade doesn't get his sword then Bats gets NO durability enhancing armor in which case he can only make his time. Blade's faster, stronger, more agile, more ruthless, and more durable with a healing factor to top it all off. Bats is more skilled but skills are not going to keep his bones from breaking on impact and he's not going to outsmart Blade like he has to most of the brawlers he's fought in the past.
I'm seriously done with this topic. I'm sure you're have some long winded rebuttal that involves stripping Blade of all his weapons and fighting hand to hand and some sort of CIS and PIS happening while Bats gets all his weapons and armor with a sprinkle of vamps are jokes (like most of Bats enemies aren't) and who cares if Blade's been fighting them all his life relying on pure swordsmanship for the majority of it and how Bats can dodge a goons gunfire so he is now un shootable.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
Wow your whole argument is a joke. Blade's martial arts not top 10? HE'S A GOD DAMN SWORDSMAN WHO GIVES A **** ABOUT H2H! And in straight up bare bottom fist fight there's no way in hell Bats lasts unless he has his armor on. LMAO @ Bats ignoring being sliced in half by Blades sword and comparing Bats evading goons gunfire to a guy who shown the ability to fire his gun and tag a warehouse full of enemies so fast SPIDERMAN didn't even know what happened.
Yeah, he's a swordsman that would get beat by Batman. You are seriously overestimating him. Batman has on armor that stops all kinds of forces. It allows him to take shots from characters with super strength. Blade's measly two ton strength would mean absolutely shit in this fight. He couldn't jab the sword in, and he couldn't slice it up either. Besides, do you know how many more skilled fighters than Blade Batman has taken out? Obviously you don't, because you are posting extremely ignorant posts here.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
ROFL @ Your Lex statement. If Blade stabs him chances are it'll be inA.) A vital area
B.) MUCH More then one stabbing motion
Yeah, that was when he had his skin tight suit on instead of his armor. So this point here is basically null. All Blade would have to work with is an exposed chin. Yeah, and that automatically garners a win. 🙄
Originally posted by B dot Rob
Seriously Batman is outgunned and outmatched.
Wrong and wrong.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
Blade has him beat in every category but H2H SKILL (OMG like Blade is even a fist fighter to begin with). The fact that your whole argument is Bats beats Blade just because shows that your nothing more then a Bat fanboy.
Wrong again. He has him beat in the strength department, and that doesn't even matter because Batman has defeated MUCH stronger people than just class TWO! Yeah, I'm a fanboy. 🙄 You have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about in the first place, and you have to gall to call me a fanboy. ❌
Originally posted by B dot Rob
Damn I just realized how laughable your argument is. So now Blade is reduced to ONLY using H2H as a means of killing Bats. If Blade doesn't get his sword then Bats gets NO durability enhancing armor in which case he can only make his time. Blade's faster, stronger, more agile, more ruthless, and more durable with a healing factor to top it all off. Bats is more skilled but skills are not going to keep his bones from breaking on impact and he's not going to outsmart Blade like he has to most of the brawlers he's fought in the past.
I never f*ckin said that Blade didn't get his sword. In fact, I've been talking about him having his sword the entire damn fight. What, you can't read??? Blade is stronger, however they are about even in agility and in the attack speed department. You truly are ignorant about Batman. MORE DURABLE????!!!!! HA!!! 😆 Tell me when Blade became bulletproof, cause I really don't remember that. His healing factor means dick in the scheme of things. It is so slight it doesn't make a difference. His bones are going to break on contact. 🙄 Seriously, repeat what you wrote back to yourself. Kind of silly, no??? Batman's intelligence is SO far above Blade's that it would be a major factor in the battle.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
I'm seriously done with this topic. I'm sure you're have some long winded rebuttal that involves stripping Blade of all his weapons and fighting hand to hand and some sort of CIS and PIS happening while Bats gets all his weapons and armor with a sprinkle of vamps are jokes (like most of Bats enemies aren't) and who cares if Blade's been fighting them all his life relying on pure swordsmanship for the majority of it and how Bats can dodge a goons gunfire so he is now un shootable.
No, I in fact was talking about Blade having his weapons for the entire time. You apparently have the reading comprehension of a preschooler. Yeah, Batman evades gunfire like it was his job. Seriously, he's done so ever since he started out. He's also evaded assassins gunfire as well. Besides, it doesn't mean anything considering his armor is bulletproof. This is taking into consideration that Batman just doesn't use liquid nitrogen capsules, exploding batarangs, or gas to take out Blade.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
they are both really cool, but blade is faster and stronger than batman, plus equal in skill, batman can't take blade out like a regular vampire because he doesn't have the weakness of a regular vampire, plus batman doesn't kill, blade does, so he'll be going all out
doh Blade is NOT Batman's equal in the skills department. Hell, he's not even close to Batman.
Before I give my answer i going to point stuff out first.
blade is a figgin vampire all their strength none of their weakest expect the thirst. Batman is a crazy human with money coming out the a$$ and is one of the top five superhero. Strenght for strenght Blade is stronger. Brain to brain Batman is smarter. We all know it brains always wins over bronzes. Batman is super careful he's know one good hit an it's all over and he always scoop the oppenct not blade he always go head first . Because of blade cocky sytle it will cause him to under esimate batman. Batman never under esimate any of his enemy after bang cripped him the one time. Batman always is always prepaid. Blade is not he sort make up as he goes along. Here my answer in three ways.
1.If the fight took place any city Batman 8/10 cause
that wear he draw his strenght from.
2. If it took place like a field
somewhere where batman only has his utiliy belt and blade with only his sword and sliver spikes it would be batman because unless you shot batman in the head, batman will always get back up! Blade on the other hands he get hurt he started crying for blood im pretty sure batman is not going to say take some of mine. 6/10 only reason for this score he is unable to duck between buliding and sort
3. if they when head to head no weapon blade would win 2/10 it would be a very tough win for blade those. With out the utilty batman have to rely on his martial arts training and his own human strenght. The only reason batman would lose because he had nothing to drive into blade heart .
Originally posted by grimside
Before I give my answer i going to point stuff out first.
blade is a figgin vampire all their strength none of their weakest expect the thirst. Batman is a crazy human with money coming out the a$$ and is one of the top five superhero. Strenght for strenght Blade is stronger. Brain to brain Batman is smarter. We all know it brains always wins over bronzes. Batman is super careful he's know one good hit an it's all over and he always scoop the oppenct not blade he always go head first . Because of blade cocky sytle it will cause him to under esimate batman. Batman never under esimate any of his enemy after bang cripped him the one time. Batman always is always prepaid. Blade is not he sort make up as he goes along. Here my answer in three ways.1.If the fight took place any city Batman 8/10 cause
that wear he draw his strenght from.2. If it took place like a field
somewhere where batman only has his utiliy belt and blade with only his sword and sliver spikes it would be batman because unless you shot in batman the head, batman will always get back up! Blade on the other hands he get hurt he started crying for blood im pretty sure batman is not going to say take some of mine. 6/10 only reason for this score he is unable to duck between buliding and sort3. if they when head to head no weapon blade would win 2/10 it would be a very tough win for blade those. With out the utilty batman have to rely on his martial arts training and his own human strenght. The only reason batman would lose because he had nothing to drive into blade heart .
The wording of that post COMPLETELY threw me off. "One good hit and Batman would be down???" HIGHLY unlikely. He's taken MUCH harder hits before and kept on coming. 😉