you do realize that i was arguing a win for storm right
lol. Sorry, I do have that kind of habit, but my quoting was meant to elaborate your post, sorry.🙂
Current Psylocke wins.
Nah. Her TK can level mountains, so can Storm's winds. I would say they'll have an even fight, it wouldn't be easy, but since Betsy don't have telepathy anymore, it would be kinda hard to predict her (Storm) attacks especially when she has a shitload of arsenal in her hands.
Telepath Psylocke wins.
Don't know much about classic Betsy though, so wouldn't comment on that.
Then Storm is a liar. Wind cannot level a mountain. Unless by level you mean erode slowly over many years.Regardless Psylocke implodes Storm's heart and explodes her lungs.
But we are talking about a world with people flying, x. You're saying winds could not level mountains but TK can? I mean this is not real world, it is based on science to some extent, but the power still relies on the writer. You underestimate Storm too much. Saying she is a liar is kinda inconceivable in a world like Marvel that is always full of possibilities. We don't know what Storm's ultimate potential simply because she merely holds back. One of the accounts that she didn't held back, it was like Dark Phoenix all again: X-Men Annual 147. That alone, for me, can suggest Storm is more than capable to some ridiculous things.😉
And ever thought about Storm giving Betsy a heart attack (brain synapse; she threatened Shaw with this) or even suffocating her (like she did with Magneto)? They are so in a level playing field.
Originally posted by RisingStorm😐 She can't give people heart attacks. IIRC All she threatened to do was electrocute him. Because he was phased into her and threatening to crush her heart. I don't recall the second incident ever happening either.
And ever thought about Storm giving Betsy a heart attack (brain synapse; she threatened Shaw with this) or even suffocating her (like she did with Magneto)? They are so in a level playing field.
^ Heart attack or whatever, but it is related to brain synapses. Remember, she can control weather-based energy, that is electricity. It flows in our bodies, she can well control that. One way or another, the bottom line is, if she do this, her opponent will die of course. GalacticStorm explained it best in the Storm vs. Electro thread.😉
And on the Magneto part, I can't believe you aren't aware of that. Storm fans in here can point you to the specific issue, I'm not good with it. But she did, she bested Magneto if it wasn't for Colossus presence that she could've easily stopped Magneto. She was concentrating on suffocating him when Magneto hammered her with Colossus in his steel form.😉
Resistance does NOT equal immunity for the 12 trillionth time. The only reason that Emma has ever lost to Storm in a TP fight is because Emma likes to play with her. If Emma wanted to take Storm out, she could. Rachel didn't need to control Storm's mind. All she needed was access to her power, which she had. She used it against Storm's will, so resistance won't really mean much to someone who has the desire. And while the only people that surpass Rachel in power are her family members, most other TPs are beyond her in strength and force of will.
A skilled enough TP can just turn her mind off, or turn her mutant abilities off. Then what is Storm going to do? Also Jean's blocked electricity with her TK shield before. I'm not sure if Bets can, but it's been done.
Yep, resistance does not equal immunity. Another fact Storm is only resistant to probing and mind control, she has no resistance to having her subconscience reflexes shut off. Any decent telepath would render Storm useless before she can even respond.
As for that fight in the comics between Emma and Storm, there are so many things that urked me about that issue.
a.) That fight took place in Storms book, advantage to Storm.
I'd like to see that same fight in Astonishing or New X-Men.
b.) Chris Claremont wrote it. He's a Storm fanboy.
c.) Storm should have been out for the count when Emma attacked her mentally. It's just not debatable, she should have been left in a catatonic state.
d.) Even though this can be taken as a bluff, hurricane winds plus an iron rod should not able to shatter perfectly smooth diamond(No pressure points).
e.) Why is it that Storms lightning has little effect on Emma in her flesh form? (This is the second/third time it's happened) Could it be the silicon?
Anyway Current Psylocke and Classic Psylocke take this.
She can't control electricity in people's bodies.Psylocke does her version of the Sue Richards brain bubble.
She can. *sigh* She said she can control weather-based energies, if I'm not too lazy looking for the scans you'll be looking in dialogues with those exact words. Care to explain how she can't? You just say 'no' without offering any explanation. Storm's powers are not one-dimensional. *For your sake, I will post scans in my next visit... 😉😄
Resistance does NOT equal immunity for the 12 trillionth time.
And who the hell said it equates to immunity? Geessh.
If Emma wanted to take Storm out, she could. Rachel didn't need to control Storm's mind. All she needed was access to her power, which she had. She used it against Storm's will, so resistance won't really mean much to someone who has the desire. And while the only people that surpass Rachel in power are her family members, most other TPs are beyond her in strength and force of will.
But we are not talking about Storm vs. Emma/Rachel. Although comparison is valid, but Psylocke is a different telepath and a different telekinetic (psychic blade, TK katana).
A skilled enough TP can just turn her mind off, or turn her mutant abilities off. Then what is Storm going to do? Also Jean's blocked electricity with her TK shield before. I'm not sure if Bets can, but it's been done.
I believe I've kinda mentioned it before that it is depending on how they will use their arsenal of powers. I did said they are on level fields. And I still don't get it, are we talking about Classic Psylocke AND Current Psylocke? Because people are assuming she can attack both with TP and TK which is confusing since she had only one from either versions. If we're talking both, that would be more difficult.
Another fact Storm is only resistant to probing and mind control, she has no resistance to having her subconscience reflexes shut off. Any decent telepath would render Storm useless before she can even respond.
It depends on how they use their skills as I mentioned before.
b.) Chris Claremont wrote it. He's a Storm fanboy.
c.) Storm should have been out for the count when Emma attacked her mentally. It's just not debatable, she should have been left in a catatonic state.
d.) Even though this can be taken as a bluff, hurricane winds plus an iron rod should not able to shatter perfectly smooth diamond(No pressure points).
What's with all the Emma? Emma is a high order telepath, but it is not written that all she can do, Betsy can also do. And I thought Betsy's offensive powers are all concentrated on her psychic blades, which makes her a melee. But not sure about that. But if she is then, range is in Storm's advantage.
Hurricane winds can't shatter diamond, but telekinesis can atomize people? Possibilities and only semi-factual. As I said before, they can do whatever they want. I am led to believe she can do more things because she displayed it in one issue, so pardon my stubborness. Lol.
e.) Why is it that Storms lightning has little effect on Emma in her flesh form? (This is the second/third time it's happened) Could it be the silicon?
Pardon, but are you trying to be funny? Because it's hilarious.😄
And another proof that they can do whatever they want (writers). Storm's not in a catatonic state that you claim she should be with Emma's mental attack and this one. The lightning should've fried Emma, or best, put her in coma. But it didn't happen.
Originally posted by RisingStorm
I believe I've kinda mentioned it before that it is depending on how they will use their arsenal of powers. I did said they are on level fields. And I still don't get it, are we talking about Classic Psylocke AND Current Psylocke? Because people are assuming she can attack both with TP and TK which is confusing since she had only one from either versions. If we're talking both, that would be more difficult.
Classic Psylocke had both Telekinesis and Telepathy. I looked it up this past weekend to remind myself. She just used her telepathy much more cuz it was more powerful.
So Classic Psylocke takes this fight.
Current Psylocke is all telekinesis. She also wins this fight.
And by the way, no matter how powerful the hurricane winds, they're not leveling any mountains without a few thousand years of constant bombardment. Even in the comics.
Originally posted by RisingStorm
But we are not talking about Storm vs. Emma/Rachel. Although comparison is valid, but Psylocke is a different telepath and a different telekinetic (psychic blade, TK katana).
That's true, I'll have to search through my comics to find a scan of Betsy shutting off someones brain functions.
Originally posted by RisingStorm
I believe I've kinda mentioned it before that it is depending on how they will use their arsenal of powers. I did said they are on level fields. And I still don't get it, are we talking about Classic Psylocke AND Current Psylocke? Because people are assuming she can attack both with TP and TK which is confusing since she had only one from either versions. If we're talking both, that would be more difficult.
Well Telepathy does work faster then Storm summoning a bolt of lightning psionically, so if it came down to a quick draw then telepathy's going to win. But like you said I still have to find a scan of Betsy performing that kind of feat.
What's with all the Emma? Emma is a high order telepath, but it is not written that all she can do, Betsy can also do. And I thought Betsy's offensive powers are all concentrated on her psychic blades, which makes her a melee. But not sure about that. But if she is then, range is in Storm's advantage.
Betsy could also use her TP in the normal fashion, but you are right. Emma's skills do not equal Betsy's
Originally posted by RisingStorm
[B]Hurricane winds can't shatter diamond, but telekinesis can atomize people? Possibilities and only semi-factual. As I said before, they can do whatever they want. I am led to believe she can do more things because she displayed it in one issue, so pardon my stubborness. Lol.
Hurricane winds would need a tree or metal pipe to shatter a mountain, the tree/pipe would also need to gain enough momentum to shatter a mountain. With TK Besty could just implode it without outside help.
As for Hurricane winds shattering a pressure pointless diamond, I don't believe that's possible even with a tree/pipe.
Originally posted by RisingStorm
Pardon, but are you trying to be funny? Because it's hilarious.😄
Yeah it was mean to be a joke, but IMHO I think it's a great explanation as to why Storms lightning has little effect on Emma. I mean it keeps on happening.
Originally posted by RisingStorm
And another proof that they can do whatever they want (writers). Storm's not in a catatonic state that you claim she should be with Emma's mental attack and this one. The lightning should've fried Emma, or best, put her in coma. But it didn't happen.
Yup, hence the silicon explanation... 😛 But honestly I'd just blame Chris Claremont.