Originally posted by batdude123but ULT cap doesnt have any that say he is stronger than 616, and how bout when cap charged through a nuclean reactor core with LITTLE momentum?
Yeah, and 616 Cap doesn't have any feats that would put him at the level 5 class. ❌ The Marvel bio where it states Cap at 5 tons is BULLSHIT.
Originally posted by King KAM
but ULT cap doesnt have any that say he is stronger than 616, and how bout when cap charged through a nuclean reactor core with LITTLE momentum?
That still doesn't prove to me that he could LIFT 5 tons. Batman also has some feats like that of Cap. I remember you showing me some scans of Cap knocking down a steel door when I asked you to show me proof that Cap is class 5. I've also seen Batman do some feats like that as well. He's kicked down gigantic trees in one kick, and he's also knocked down plenty of thick solid steel doors. I wouldn't consider Batman a class 5 character by any stretch of the imagination. 😬 You of course, can believe whatever you want to believe about Cap. That of course is your opinion, and you obviously have a right to it. ✅ However, I'm just not buying it. ❌
Originally posted by batdude123that steel door was THICK i wanna see bats do something similar,and bats kicked down a tree, using chi, Cap demolishes a steel door with a broken shoulder.And that nuclear reactor wall was thick enough so that lazers would take minutes to burn into it.
That still doesn't prove to me that he could LIFT 5 tons. Batman also has some feats like that of Cap. I remember you showing me some scans of Cap knocking down a steel door when I asked you to show me proof that Cap is class 5. I've also seen Batman do some feats like that as well. He's kicked down gigantic trees in one kick, and he's also knocked down plenty of thick solid steel doors. I wouldn't consider Batman a class 5 character by any stretch of the imagination. 😬 You of course, can believe whatever you want to believe about Cap. That of course is your opinion, and you obviously have a right to it. ✅ However, I'm just not buying it. ❌
Originally posted by King KAM
that steel door was THICK i wanna see bats do something similar,and bats kicked down a tree, using chi, Cap demolishes a steel door with a broken shoulder.And that nuclear reactor wall was thick enough so that lazers would take minutes to burn into it.
No, but that still doesn't prove to me that he can LIFT 5 tons. A bunch of street level characters have some strength feats that should seem impossible for their strength level, however they are like class 5 or anything. Sorry, unless I see Cap actually lifting something at or around 5 tons, I seriously don't buy the fact that he can lift 10,000 right up over his head. 😬 Anyway, before we go any further, do you think Ult Cap would take the majority over Bats and Nightwing???
Originally posted by batdude123how often does spiderman lift 25tons???????? and yes Ult Cap would pwn them both easier than 616, but 616 can take ult.cap easily, people are just nuthuggin ult cap, but in truth a true cap fan who reads both will easily tell you whos better. and its 616.
No, but that still doesn't prove to me that he can LIFT 5 tons. A bunch of street level characters have some strength feats that should seem impossible for their strength level, however they are like class 5 or anything. Sorry, unless I see Cap actually lifting something at or around 5 tons, I seriously don't buy the fact that he can lift 10,000 right up over his head. 😬 Anyway, before we go any further, do you think Ult Cap would take the majority over Bats and Nightwing???
Originally posted by King KAM
how often does spiderman lift 25tons???????? and yes Ult Cap would pwn them both easier than 616, but 616 can take ult.cap easily, people are just nuthuggin ult cap, but in truth a true cap fan who reads both will easily tell you whos better. and its 616.
Hmm, well I still say NW and Bats would take the majority.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Actually...I don't think that Ultimate Cap is any stronger. None of his feats indicate that. As for speed...616's speed feats absolutely trump Ultimate's. Hell, after Civil War #1, I think Ultimate one has even lost his badassery edge.As for this, I think the tag team of Batman and Nightwing are able to take at least 6/10.
Nah, all incarnations of Cap are badass 😎
Its just that Ult. Cap is a modern version of Cap who isnt afraid to go and kick some ass and ask questions later 😉
Originally posted by who?-kid
I'm no Captain America fan, but I prefer the original one (616). Ultimate Cap is too macho for me. He also hides behind his guns.He may be stronger, but I'm not convinced. If he's stronger, it's not much. The same for durability.
Batman alone can take Ultimate Cap.
Batman/Nightwing 8/10.
He hides behind his guns 🤨
You need to read some more Ultimates
Originally posted by King KAM
but ULT cap doesnt have any that say he is stronger than 616, and how bout when cap charged through a nuclean reactor core with LITTLE momentum?
We've seen the 616 Captain America get bested by Daredevil, Black Panther, Punisher, and a whole slew of street level fighters. Ultimate Cap has never had that problem.