Originally posted by Soujaboy
I was actually asking you to prove that Mjolnir grants Thor his god like speed.I apologize for arguing against the Hulk. I understand that he is your fav character, im truly sorry.
Ignored Healing statement: Check
Misstatement: Check - To disprove that Mjolnir gives Thor his Speed I must prove that Mjolnir Doesn't give him such abilities. We are asking you from proof that he has them outside of Mjolnir and you are unable to give us such.
Lack of any proof refuting my stance: Check
Changing of subject: Check
and Twisting what others have said: Check
Wow 5 out of 5, keep it up.
Originally posted by Dalak
Ignored Healing statement: CheckMisstatement: Check - To disprove that Mjolnir gives Thor his Speed I must prove that Mjolnir Doesn't give him such abilities. We are asking you from proof that he has them outside of Mjolnir and you are unable to give us such.
Lack of any proof refuting my stance: Check
Changing of subject: Check
and Twisting what others have said: Check
Wow 5 out of 5, keep it up.
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Originally posted by Dalak
Ignored Healing statement: CheckMisstatement: Check - To disprove that Mjolnir gives Thor his Speed I must prove that Mjolnir Doesn't give him such abilities. We are asking you from proof that he has them outside of Mjolnir and you are unable to give us such.
Lack of any proof refuting my stance: Check
Changing of subject: Check
and Twisting what others have said: Check
Wow 5 out of 5, keep it up.
Can you answer one thing. why should I give you any proof? If I do like so many times before you will deny it.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Can you answer one thing. why should I give you any proof? If I do like so many times before you will deny it.
You haven't given me one shred of proof about Thor being lightspeed or faster without the Hammer.
Not. One.
You gave a scan of him moving fast and no way to quantify it.
I could do the same with Quicksilver and say he's FTL if you want me to accept that.
E: Oh yes, refusal to provide proof will be admitting that your argument is flawed and has no proof to support it and it will be (should be) ignored.
Originally posted by Dalak
You haven't given me one shred of proof about Thor being lightspeed or faster without the Hammer.Not. One.
You gave a scan of him moving fast and no way to quantify it.
I could do the same with Quicksilver and say he's FTL if you want me to accept that.
E: Oh yes, refusal to provide proof will be admitting that your argument is flawed and has no proof to support it and it will be (should be) ignored.
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Originally posted by Soujaboy
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Warrior Madness Thor: Counts for him but not others. He's supposedly 10x Classic Thor and there's the little fact that he has his hammer when I asked you to show proof WITHOUT the hammer.
Originally posted by Dalak
Warrior Madness Thor: Counts for him but not others. He's supposedly 10x Classic Thor and there's the little fact that he has his hammer when I asked you to show proof WITHOUT the hammer.
Sorry, since Thor never fights with Mjolnir I ant give you s scan that shows him fightin without his hammer.
Wm thor to my knowledge isn't 10x regular Thor. In the Onslaught saga thor said that wm was just his rage mode.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Sorry, since Thor never fights with Mjolnir I ant give you s scan that shows him fightin without his hammer.Wm thor to my knowledge isn't 10x regular Thor. In the Onslaught saga thor said that wm was just his rage mode.
It is indeed a rage mode, but that rage fuels him similarly to Hulk from what I was able to gather when I was checking up on WM Thor. It's not something mere anger does.
No one answered my questions about the Valkyrie however, since it appeared to hit Drax yet is considered to be a hallucination.
Originally posted by bigbran
to my knowledge thor, can still fire lighting w/o hammer, and im pretty sure he can still fire his godblasts. and basically what your saying is that the hammer moves lightspeed on its own!
If that were so then Thor would be able to just think and it would levitate and smack him. His FTL flying feats are all using the Hammer, which is enchanted to go that fast.
When has he used a Godblast on his own? From what I've seen he has to channel his 'godly essence' through Mjolnir to Godblast period, and if there is a specific instance of him doing it I'll gladly say I was wrong.
If there isn't though, assuming he can without proof will be just that: assuming.
I have never seen Thor use his godforce without his hammer. I've seen king thor fire off what appears to be odinforce. If you're using the Ragnarok storyline.. are you going with before or after he became King Thor... and had access to his father's powers. Sorry but I stopped reading Thor around ragnarok..
Originally posted by rotiart
I have never seen Thor use his godforce without his hammer. I've seen king thor fire off what appears to be odinforce. If you're using the Ragnarok storyline.. are you going with before or after he became King Thor... and had access to his father's powers. Sorry but I stopped reading Thor around ragnarok..
Skyfathers win over pretty much everything below them
King Thor could take this himself.
I'm assuming Classic Thor without his Hammer.
And I still don't see what they can do against a Hulk at 'Full Rage' when that's capable of punching through time storms and otherwise screwing with the fabric of reality. His first punches could tear holes in the dimensional fabric sucking them away to another dimension. Without Hammers I'm not sure if they have the ability to teleport themselves beyond dimensional barriers.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Since when weren't handbooks allowed?
Since they often contradict each other and are no longer current or valid & accurate representations of the Characters power within 3 months at the outside.
Handbooks of any type are good for Historical Reference, but for use as feats they aren't valid. I explained this to you earlier in the Thor vs Hulk thread.
I haven't seen ANY indication that Thor has used his powers without the hammer. He swings hammer over head, storm comes.. aims hammer.. fires godblast.. I have never seen thor display his powers without the hammer... odinforce... runes... or other deus ex machina.
And I agree Thor has never shown uber speeds. Thor without his hammer vs. mindless hulk is getting rocked.. Beta ray stands a better chance than Thor. still 2 100+tons vs Hulk.. Thats gonna be a horribly viscious fist fight... guys running back and forth just to hit each other. I'd give it to Hulk in the end. 6/10
