The Fantastic Four VS. The Collective

Who takes it?

Iron Man and Sentry basically did all the fighting against Michael. Can the FF4 do the same? Can the Human Torch go nova on the Collective? Can the Thing clobber the Collective?

Debate.

With prep, they win. However, without it, they would lose.

Are you sure? That fake Alpha Flight Team got wiped out in just one panel.

Yeah, they would get SHMOKED without prep.

Well, it depends. It was clearly established although the Collective was powerful, it had no idea how to use its abilities. If the FF fight smart the whole time, even without prep, they be able to come up with a solution similar to what Iron Man and the New Avengers did.

The Avengers "solution" was to leave it alone and let it do whatever it wanted

Without Prep, Collective 8/10

With Prep, FF 9/10

Without Prep Collective 10/10
With Prep Collective 9.9/10

Its every damn mutant that lost its powers... Magneto by himself is a global threat. They are not putting the collective down.

The Collective wasn't really that impressive...

It had next to zero control of it's abilities, and it wasn't using all the mutant powers at the same time.

from what ive seen..the collective pretty much doesnt get hurt...and it was said that by fighting it ur chance of survival decreases beacuse it powers increase

the collective 10/10