Originally posted by Mider
can midnighter dodge point blank weapons fire, and take point blank anti tank weaponry and still get up and win a fight, can he jump higher then spiderman, and outdodge supes for a while, does any of his weapons take supes heat vision and not hurt it.
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Weird post. I know Slade has a gigantic jobber aura, but he's definitely still not far above street level. Nightwing, Robin, and Bats put him down in Infinite Crisis (they didn't show the actual fight though).
And point blank anti-tank weaponry assumes Slade has that on him. I realize he's used stuff like that before, but "standard equipment"??? Probably not. If Slade gets a portable armory, MN'er gets The Carrier. Advantage MN'er.
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Originally posted by DigiMark007He is saying that slade has taken and Anti-tank round to the chest before not that he carries one.
??Weird post. I know Slade has a gigantic jobber aura, but he's definitely still not far above street level. Nightwing, Robin, and Bats put him down in Infinite Crisis (they didn't show the actual fight though).
And point blank anti-tank weaponry assumes Slade has that on him. I realize he's used stuff like that before, but "standard equipment"??? Probably not. If Slade gets a portable armory, MN'er gets The Carrier. Advantage MN'er.
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Originally posted by newjak86
He is saying that slade has taken and Anti-tank round to the chest before not that he carries one.
Fair enough. MN'er has taken shots from Apollo before. So they're roughly even. Both have slightly upgraded healing as well (MN'er has two hearts and a fast-working immune system).
Slade may have a slight durability edge. I don't know for sure. But MN'er still has a huge tactical advantage once the fight starts. That should be able to compensate for any of that.
Still a great fight.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Wildstorm doesn't do exact strength classes like Marvel, but he has quite a few speed/strength feats to put him at least peak human. But honestly, he's beyond even that as far as reflexes, and has a couple strength feats that would put him in the Class 1-to-2 category. And harming Apollo means he might even be well beyond that. I'd put a Cap around Class 5, but it's anyone's guess within those parameters really.And out-prepping MN'er would be hard too. I know Slade's the god of prep, but MN'er still owns in the tactics department once the fight begins, so even if his prep wasn't quite as good, Slade would be hard pressed.
Here's what Grifter had to say about him:
"Think you're pretty clever, eh? The big bad Midnighter? You're smarter than anyone, you're meaner than anyone, and you're faster than anyone."
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Fair enough. MN'er has taken shots from Apollo before. So they're roughly even. Both have slightly upgraded healing as well (MN'er has two hearts and a fast-working immune system).Slade may have a slight durability edge. I don't know for sure. But MN'er still has a huge tactical advantage once the fight starts. That should be able to compensate for any of that.
Still a great fight.
TAKEN SHOTS FROM APOLLO BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!! 😱 😆 💃
I favor DS.
DS is no slouch in the thinking capacity. (speed of thought and calculations).
Superior healing and regeneration.
I would say reflexes (or speed perception) are about the same.
And defiantly not a slouch in the h2h combat.
In a tacticians fight, MN has his work cut out for him. He is facing some one who is just as deadly and good as him.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
MN'er jump-kicked a tank shell fired at him far enough away that it didn't harm him....just wanted to point that out.
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I know. That was pretty damned sweet.
I'm not entirely sure about this fight. It's a hell of a lot closer than that Taskmaster vs. Slade garbage.
But, I really like the Midnighter, so I'm inclined to give him the win.
I'll hold off from my decision for now.
Originally posted by id369
I favor DS.DS is no slouch in the thinking capacity. (speed of thought and calculations).
Superior healing and regeneration.
I would say reflexes (or speed perception) are about the same.
And defiantly not a slouch in the h2h combat.In a tacticians fight, MN has his work cut out for him. He is facing some one who is just as deadly and good as him.
You're greatly underestimating MN. DS might think quickly but Midnighter can plan out virtually every possible scenario in an instant.
MN also has a great strength advantage.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're greatly underestimating MN. DS might think quickly but Midnighter can plan out virtually every possible scenario in an instant.MN also has a great strength advantage.
How am I underestimating him? I only mentioned DS was no slouch, and MN would have a hard time with DS.
DS has a track record of taking on several posters boys of DC. Experience and Strategy along with much reaction time would be needed to pull of such feats.
Its something DS has. He just does not go around stating - “Oh I calculated the outcome of this fight X amount.
(Although de does brags, about his 10x human abilities, 100 man feats, and senses being 10,000 times being augmented)
Originally posted by id369
How am I underestimating him?
DS has a track record of taking on several posters boys of DC. Experience and Strategy along with much reaction time would be needed to pull of such feats.
Its something DS has. He just does not go around stating - “Oh I calculated the outcome of this fight X amount.
(Although de does brags, about his 10x human abilities, 100 man feats, and senses being 10,000 times being augmented)
Its hard to out think a guy who already knows the best way to fight you.
MN is no slouch in the enchanced human department area either.