The London bombings - One year on

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
First off, a much less amount of people would have remembered the 7th of July had they not been reminded. Second, how many people simple just shut up for two minutes because everyone else does? Maybe they spend a couple seconds thinking about it, but then it's back to talking about last night's soap opera or the football.

I just think all this grieving should be done on your own time.

-AC

Agreed. I wouldn't have know it was the first year anniversary of the London bombings had the media not reminded me by plastering my TV screen with images of blood soaked people.

Originally posted by Deano
what the people of 7/11 have suffered was unimaginable, but where is
the outpouring of grief, the government statements of regret and a minutes silence for the tens of thousands of iraqis who have been killed and maimed as a result of the American and British invasion of that country?
are they not worthy of the same respect and response?

thats what annoys me slightly about people in general because they are trapped in the 'proud to be british program' and 'proud to be american program' where only there 'own' are more important. thats the feeling i get about folks

That's the sentiment EVERYWHERE, not just America or Britain. Who gives a shit if the enemy dies? That's always been the mentality, since the beginning of human beings.

Wow, I feel an urge to post "London's Burning" lyrics in thios thread...I'm an evil ****.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Preventable disease, famine and drought aren't exactly natural causes, being preventable and all. 😐

Disease is natural. Immune systems are natural. Medication is not. The cure is what is unnatural, not the death.

And I like how you broke her sentence in half and took the first half out of context to make a comment on it.

Broke my darn sentence into three pieces, so he did... messed it all around and stuff.

But I have to say, having read the responses to my posts, I've been told. And I agree. But I still think arguing with one another about whether it's better to sympathise or not is unfair. Each to their own and, as AC said, sympathising alone would probably be more genuine a statement of sadness.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Disease is natural. Immune systems are natural. Medication is not. The cure is what is unnatural, not the death.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
And I like how you broke her sentence in half and took the first half out of context to make a comment on it.

Originally posted by Syren
Each to their own and, as AC said, sympathising alone would probably be more genuine a statement of sadness.

Originally posted by Kenobi, Obi-Wan
Britain fell silent at noon

Britain fell silent?

I didn't see anyone quiet where I was.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Disease is natural. Immune systems are natural. Medication is not. The cure is what is unnatural, not the death.

And I like how you broke her sentence in half and took the first half out of context to make a comment on it.

there is no need to cut out bits of the body to 'cure' people. We just have to restore vibrational harmony to replace the disharmony that causes dis-ease. and we do that through vibrational means, not the scalpel and the drug.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
That's the sentiment EVERYWHERE, not just America or Britain. Who gives a shit if the enemy dies? That's always been the mentality, since the beginning of human beings.

America is the enemy of Iraqis. Iraqis believe THEY are in the right, so they grieve over their loves ones. Besides, the vast majority of Iraqis killed due to Bush's war have been innocent. They are not the enemy.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Be sure to bear that in mind the next time you get sick.
Thanks, I do too. 🙂

I bear do bear that in mind everytime I get sick. Did I say medication was a bad thing? No. I said it was unnatural.

And too bad for you that when you put her quote back in context, it makes your comment look silly.

Not really. In the context of this thread the statement is still very ironic. Some deaths are obviously clearly easier to ignore than others.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Not really. In the context of this thread the statement is still very ironic. Some deaths are obviously clearly easier to ignore than others.

No, she was pointing out that people die everyday but(that's a very important word in this sentence) that doesn't make the deaths easier to bear.

Now that, in context, means something else completely than when you seperate the two into "you can't just shrug your shoulders and say something so callous" and "We are all well aware that people die every day from natural causes".

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
No, she was pointing out that people die everyday but(that's a very important word in this sentence) that doesn't make the deaths easier to bear.

Now that, in context, means something else completely than when you seperate the two into "you can't just shrug your shoulders and say something so callous" and "We are all well aware that people die every day from natural causes".

It wasn't as simple as that.

Originally posted by Syren
It wasn't as simple as that.

Because you overcomplicated it. It is that simple when you make it that simple and get down to bare bones.

-AC

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
No, she was pointing out that people die everyday but(that's a very important word in this sentence) that doesn't make the deaths easier to bear.

If you truly believe she is as upset about every single child dying in Africa as she is about the July 7th bombings, I'd think again.

She lives her everyday life not thinking about, or paying homage to, those people, and if she says she does, I'll call her a liar. However, she's taking time to think about, and pay homage to, the bomb victims. Clearly some deaths are easier to ignore. You don't have to bear with deaths in Africa, or anywhere if they don't concern you. It's ok to say so, you know? Stop worrying about what people might think if you're not concerned about everyone, and admit that you aren't.

-AC

It seems much shorter than a year to me. I suppose my sense of time is distorted.

Anyway, as far as expressing sympathy goes, I agree with AC (as if I disagree with him often). I would rather it if I was not forced to remember something that I don't wish to. I don't want bad memories shoved down my throat, and I'm quite certain that the people more closely involved want it even less than I do. If they chose to remember it, allow them to do it in their own way. I do not recall what it was for now, but when I was much younger I remember standing outside on a rainy night under an umbrella, holding a candle, and singing softly to myself. And I was suddenly very happy and very sad at the same time; I suppose I was having a "moment", but nothing even remotely close to that had crossed my heart earlier in the day, and, if I recall, there had been some national remembrance of something or another.

I find it quite cruel to force people to remember what could quite possibly be the worst day of their lives if they don't wish to do it.

Originally posted by Bloigen
Britain fell silent?

I didn't see anyone quiet where I was.

Same here and I was in my local supermarket, not a word over the shops PA system.

2 mins grieving isnt enough i think. those who died, be it anywhere!they didnt ask for it, yet they lost their lives.we should show respect to them!