proselytism:Why does your faith feel it needs to be a pain in everyone's ass?

Why?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Why?

Are you asking me? 😕

Yes.

Religion is a natural byproduct of human intelligence. The right and wrong of a religion is not the in your face dogma, but the inner working of how the religion functions, or doesn’t function, within the society that it serves.

But in death, there is either heaven, nothingness, reincarnation, etc. Only one is going to happen, that is what I am saying.

Originally posted by Nellinator
But in death, there is either heaven, nothingness, reincarnation, etc. Only one is going to happen, that is what I am saying.

In life, what happens in death, does not matter. Also, how do you know that all of those happen and more? I worry about people who know to much about death.

I don't know, those are simply the beliefs put forward my certain major religions and therefore am making generalizations on possiblities. I personally believe death is important in life because if there is an afterlife I am certain the actions in life will affect it.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I don't know, those are simply the beliefs put forward my certain major religions and therefore am making generalizations on possiblities. I personally believe death is important in life because if there is an afterlife I am certain the actions in life will affect it.

The only effect that death has on the living is the knowledge that we will die. That is were belief has it's greatest effect.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
In life, what happens in death, does not matter. Also, how do you know that all of those happen and more? I worry about people who know to much about death.

This stance can be extended further. There is no knowledge about tomorrow, only the highly probable chance of it being similar to today. So, why should one waste years on education if it is possible one might not be alive at the end? There is a possibility that our existence as we know it will be very different tomorrow than it is today. So why live in a prescribed manner today, if no one really knows what will happen tomorrow? A belief on what occurs following death is not an irrational consideration any more than a belief as to what will occur following today.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Regret
This stance can be extended further. There is no knowledge about tomorrow, only the highly probable chance of it being similar to today. So, why should one waste years on education if it is possible one might not be alive at the end? There is a possibility that our existence as we know it will be very different tomorrow than it is today. So why live in a prescribed manner today, if no one really knows what will happen tomorrow? A belief on what occurs following death is not an irrational consideration any more than a belief as to what will occur following today.

However, when belief becomes foreknowledge, dilution fills the mind.

That's better than dying and going to hell (if it exists).

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Hi,

I'm a Jew an we don't prosceletize, so i really don't understand why every damn faith has to convert everyone to their own faith either by annoying the crap out of people, playing around with the government and legal system, or ethnically cleansing non-believers.
Discuss

Typically there are two reasons. The first was mentioned by Debs and the second is because those members of a particular religion who feel the need to shove their faith down your throat are dwelling on that grain of doubt that sits in the back of their mind. So, the more people who think like they do, the better and more secure they feel in their own beliefs.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, when belief becomes foreknowledge, dilution fills the mind.

Foreknowledge... I am unsure if I understand your meaning here. Could you clarify?

Originally posted by Regret
Foreknowledge... I am unsure if I understand your meaning here. Could you clarify?

Someone who says "I am going to heaven when I die" is living with dilution. There is nothing really wrong about that, however, not realizing it can lead to unintended consequences.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Hi,

I'm a Jew an we don't prosceletize, so i really don't understand why every damn faith has to convert everyone to their own faith either by annoying the crap out of people, playing around with the government and legal system, or ethnically cleansing non-believers.
Discuss

Well, if you're jewish like you claim to be...then by all means you do know that Judaism is NOT a missionary religion. Christianity seeks to spread the word of their savior Jesus Christ. Which as it mention in teh bible his teachings should spread throught the world. There is also no central figure of salvation in your religion. Only Yaweh and that's it. And as a far as I know...anyone can convert to Judaism...it really doesn't make you guys anything special.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Someone who says "I am going to heaven when I die" is living with dilution. There is nothing really wrong about that, however, not realizing it can lead to unintended consequences.

Agreed. I do not believe a person can know their status in the Heaven Hell paradigm, too many variables exist to make a prediction of this sort. But then I think all belief should be held with a grain of salt. It should be capable of altering when we find that we are wrong.

Originally posted by Regret
Yes, but I wasn't saying science was bad or wrong or anything. My post was pointing out that most people believe we should share science with others that do not have it. Why should any religion be viewed differently by its adherents?

Science isn't a religion. You cant compare religion with science. Get over it.

Originally posted by Alliance
Science isn't a religion. You cant compare religion with science. Get over it.

I wasn't comparing science and religion. I was comparing beliefs about the two.

Originally posted by Regret
I wasn't comparing science and religion. I was comparing beliefs about the two.

Even in science, belief can help or hinder. Staying at a point where you understand what you believe is just a belief, will allow you to have the flexibility enough to change.

So basically, we agree. It is the person who left that I don't agree with. To think that a person knows what the out come to death must be, is to be filled with dilution.