Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Debbiejo, you are full of deceit, a child of the devil, and an enemy of all righteousness. Will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord?Acts 13:10
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and said, “O [B]full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord?
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You really seem to have it in for Debbiejo. Son.. hehehe.
But anyway she is talking from a historical viewpoint. Remember the Bible you advocate so greatly was not written by Jesus, it was written by people based, apparently, on what Jesus said. AFTER his death. Some time AFTER his death. And of 12 Disciples only four got a call back to go in the Bible at the council. That isn't even a majority. I think it is valid for Debbiejo to comment on the possibility that Paul may have mixed it up a little (or lot.)
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Remember the Bible you advocate so greatly was not written by Jesus, it was written by people based, apparently, on what Jesus said. AFTER his death. Some time AFTER his death. And of 12 Disciples only four got a call back to go in the Bible at the council. That isn't even a majority. I think it is valid for Debbiejo to comment on the possibility that Paul may have mixed it up a little (or lot.)
[Jesus said], "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell will not prove stronger than it." Matthew 16:18.
"Bear in mind that our's Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him." 2 Peter 3:15
I think that if Paul wrote a false gospel, Peter, who witnessed Christ first hand and who was given the highest authority on teaching the word by Christ himself, would have corrected and bashed Paul's teachings instead of commending them as coming from God. This also provideds proof that the New Testament was written in the first century. Also, if you think about Jesus, who is 'One with the Father', and therefore did write much of the Scripture and Gospel as confirmed by these verses:
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness."
2 Timothy 3:16
and
"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy was never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." 2 Peter 1:20-21.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
🤨You really seem to have it in for Debbiejo. Son.. hehehe.
But anyway she is talking from a historical viewpoint. Remember the Bible you advocate so greatly was not written by Jesus, it was written by people based, apparently, on what Jesus said. AFTER his death. Some time AFTER his death. And of 12 Disciples only four got a call back to go in the Bible at the council. That isn't even a majority. I think it is valid for Debbiejo to comment on the possibility that Paul may have mixed it up a little (or lot.)
I do not have it in for anyone not even you Imperial_Samura or your boy Alliance.
I am against the persistent blasphemy and deceit that I believe Debbiejo puts forth with unmitigated gall. I am not against her, but she is the purveyor of the untruths so it looks as though I am against "her." I oppose what she spews because she cannot substantiate it by or with the Bible. Everything that I write--EVERYTHING--is backed up, supported, substantiated, predicated, and based on the Bible--God's Word. But what Debbiejo writes is not and yet she persists in disseminating fallacy and stark--for one of a better way to say it--LIES.
There was a man named Sergius Paulus, an intelligent man, who also was a proconsul. This man called for Barnabas and Saul (Paul's original name) and sought to hear the Word of God. However, there was a sorcerer who was also a false prophet, named Elymas. This man withstood and opposed Barnabas and Saul (Paul), seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. Then Saul, who also is called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him (Elymas) and said, "O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord?--Acts 13:6-12 paraphrased by me.
If it is okay for Saul (Paul) to say this to someone then it is okay for me. And, trust me I have fought to refrain from characterizing Debbiejo with this verse of Scripture. But hey, if the shoe fits....
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^ "He who is without sin cast the first stone"
Shakyamunison you are not even a Christian--not judging you, I am just basing this on your posts. I can tell who knows Jesus and who doesn't simply by what they say or write until they show me as it were, otherwise. Get saved FIRST, then if I get out of line you can have the authority to call me on the carpet--in love though, Christian love. It is okay for Christians to rebuke other Christians Paul did it to Peter. But for a non-Christian to try and use Scripture--which they don't even know well is misplaced. That would be like me trying to rebuke a muslim with their koran. I would need to become a Muslim to rebuke another Muslim. This is my point of view.
Galatians 2:11
Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I [Paul] withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed;
Originally posted by debbiejo
You can have that now....You don't need anyone to give it to you....Mithra also died to give you these things.....
Debbiejo, this is ANOTHER GOSPEL. This is what I mean when I say that you do not have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of you and that I can tell that you are not saved. How can you write what you wrote in the above post and call yourself saved?
Galatians 1:6-9
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel , 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Shakyamunison you are not even a Christian--not judging you, I am just basing this on your posts. I can tell who knows Jesus and who doesn't simply by what they say or write until they show me as it were, otherwise. Get saved FIRST, then if I get out of line you can have the authority to call me on the carpet--in love though, Christian love. It is okay for Christians to rebuke other Christians Paul did it to Peter. But for a non-Christian to try and use Scripture--which they don't even know well is misplaced. That would be like me trying to rebuke a muslim with their koran. I would need to become a Muslim to rebuke another Muslim. This is my point of view.Galatians 2:11
had come to Antioch, I [Paul] withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; [/B]
Now when [B]Peter
I was saved many years ago. 🙄 Do not be so arrogant, pride cometh before the fall.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Debbiejo, this is ANOTHER GOSPEL. This is what I mean when I say that you do not have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of you and that I can tell that you are not saved. How can you write what you wrote in the above post and call yourself saved?Galatians 1:6-9
, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. [/B]
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, [B]to a different gospel
So once you are saved you can be unsaved? I don't think that bible supports that. 🙄
Yes it does.
"The Lord is with you when you are with him. If you seek him, he will be found by you, but if you forsake him, he will forsake you." 2 Chronicles 15:2 (Another useful verse in the Chronicles, how about that).
"If we disown him, he will also disown us" 2 Timothy 2:12.
"But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God" Luke 12:9.
The evidence is fairly clear.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Yes it does."The Lord is with you when you are with him. If you seek him, he will be found by you, but if you forsake him, he will forsake you." 2 Chronicles 15:2 (Another useful verse in the Chronicles, how about that).
"If we disown him, he will also disown us" 2 Timothy 2:12.
"But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God" Luke 12:9.
The evidence is fairly clear.
Is it for you to judge rather someone is with God or not?
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveYes it is another gospel......the one that came FIRST!!.........As for being antiChrist, I suppose I am not that I have anything against Jesus, it's would what the church did to make him the "Christ"........and in doing so made slaves of you all..
Debbiejo, this is ANOTHER GOSPEL.
I guess most of us thinking people are antichrists.......*damn 666 won't come off* 🙄