Originally posted by The Pict
they have a lot more experience than ult colossus. and while ult colossus is written as stronger than his 616 counterpart he is also made more vulnerable. colossus takes out cage but not the others.
I don't agree. Ult. Colossus has definitely proved himself as an able fighter. That, and he's far stronger than his 616 counterpart. Whom, in my opinion, I believe can take out Thing and She-Hulk (one-on-one) on his own.
Anyway, one-on-one, Ult. Colossus can take out Thing, She-Hulk, and Luke Cage (he's really not a challenge).
But, I still say FF win. I'm not sure of anything they can do to Reed. And Johnny can cause all sorts of damage. And then Sue, of course.
I am droping J2 and Adding Mainframe- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_%28comics%29
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Your guys posts are very funny to read... Thank you for the fun.
Ult. Colossus maybe the most overrated character in MARVELS history. He's had almost no experience compared to 616 THING...He would be turned into a organic steel pretzel very quickly. Who has he actually beaten in a true fight that was finished...? Please answer that.
J2...Hulkling... two more characters that have less fights than me.
FF without Jen and Luke 11/10 against those infants of heroism.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ult. Colossus maybe the most overrated character in MARVELS history. He's had almost no experience compared to 616 THING...He would be turned into a organic steel pretzel very quickly. Who has he actually beaten in a true fight that was finished...? Please answer that.
Co-Signed
Okay even if you had mainframe, j2, ultimate colossus AND Hulkling, they'd still lose. First you seem to misunderstand what Hulkling is, which is a shapeshifter, He gains the physical appearance of the people he takes on, not their powers. He can't become Iceman, and suddenly beat Human torch. Powers like that belong to Metamorpho.
Still you stated 3 on 6.. well i'm using 4 on 6.
Hulking, Colossus, MainFrame and J2.
Thing can tangle with J2 easy. She-Hulk when she went off... beat up many avengers in avengers disassembled. She could handle colossus (and i mean go toe to toe). Mainframe vs. Human Torch. And Hulkling vs Luke Cage. most of these battles are near even.
Reed and Invisible woman don't even have to fight.
Its not even close 6 on 4. FF6 win 8/10
6 on 3 FF6 win 10/10
original ff4 vs those 4? closer fight, but FF4 take it 6/10
See you wanna try and compare Thing to Colossus? Thing regularly tangles with the hulk. Colossus < Hulk. Shehulk can at least hold the colossus down until reed and susan need to do whatever it is they need to do.
big mismatch.
Originally posted by rotiart
Okay even if you had mainframe, j2, ultimate colossus AND Hulkling, they'd still lose. First you seem to misunderstand what Hulkling is, which is a shapeshifter, He gains the physical appearance of the people he takes on, not their powers. He can't become Iceman, and suddenly beat Human torch. Powers like that belong to Metamorpho.Still you stated 3 on 6.. well i'm using 4 on 6.
Hulking, Colossus, MainFrame and J2.
Thing can tangle with J2 easy. She-Hulk when she went off... beat up many avengers in avengers disassembled. She could handle colossus (and i mean go toe to toe). Mainframe vs. Human Torch. And Hulkling vs Luke Cage. most of these battles are near even.Reed and Invisible woman don't even have to fight.
Its not even close 6 on 4. FF6 win 8/10
6 on 3 FF6 win 10/10
original ff4 vs those 4? closer fight, but FF4 take it 6/10See you wanna try and compare Thing to Colossus? Thing regularly tangles with the hulk. Colossus < Hulk. Shehulk can at least hold the colossus down until reed and susan need to do whatever it is they need to do.
big mismatch.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
🤪Ult. Colossus maybe the most overrated character in MARVELS history. He's had almost no experience compared to 616 THING...He would be turned into a organic steel pretzel very quickly. Who has he actually beaten in a true fight that was finished...? Please answer that.
lol. that's because nobody can stand with colossus in the Ult. U. if he sees them coming. tony stark? lol. we saw how that went over didn't we? 616 faithful can't deal with that.
Jesus that's sad, you sound like a fanboy. YOu can't even argue a relative point. Hulking has not done anything impressive, and isn't that strong. If HT got anywhere near him, he would burn that guy to a crisp.
Invisible woman could easily contain mainframe. Thing fights guys like the hulk regularly. She hulk is near par with hulks strength. she hulk by herself could go toe to toe with colossus, but you're throwing thing in there too.
I really don't think you know anything about the characters you're arguing for. Colossus has been melted before., Sue or reed launches colossus high into the sky, and HT lays the heat on. Colossus goes down as a heap of solidifed steel.
Game set match. The regular opponents for the FF4 are silver surfer, terrax, galactus, abraxas.... At least learn the damn players before you try to play the game.