Originally posted by Df02
"I daresay there is hardly a hint of Brilliance in that Verse. It sounds like something I've heard depressed children mumble to themselves."
Hmmmm, Your point is? Not once did I ever suggest that Actual Hard Core is that great Lyrically. My point the entire time has been that neither is Screamo, nor are those lyrics Intelligable.
Besides, It's Henry Rollins. He gets angry at Trees.
It's not intelligible to place capital letters in the middle of your sentences without reason either.
On topic, why are you discussing lyrics? Plenty of great songs have shit lyrics, it's stupid to say a style of music is shit because SOME of the lyrics are shit. Furthermore, you seem to be saying that "screamo" has shit lyrics, what kind of assumption is that? That's like some ill-informed TRL-fed teenager saying that rock has shit lyrics and happens to be all screaming.
-AC
ive just resigned to the fact that he hates it, and no matter what i say he'll just keep saying he hates it.
if you dont like something, say you dont like it... dont slate it, especially when you dont have a leg to stand on.
btw i wouldnt say the lyrics i provided were shit... they arent ground breaking and theyre a touch on the soppy side, but they are psuedo-poetic and abstract, and i happen to like them quite a bit.
Originally posted by Df02
ive just resigned to the fact that he hates it, and no matter what i say he'll just keep saying he hates it.if you dont like something, say you dont like it... dont slate it, especially when you dont have a leg to stand on.
btw i wouldnt say the lyrics i provided were shit... they arent ground breaking and theyre a touch on the soppy side, but they are psuedo-poetic and abstract, and i happen to like them quite a bit.
But I Do Have a leg to stand on. Simply saying I do not, does not make it so.
And yes, I do hate it. And no, You can't say anything to change this. The only thing that will, is me hearing something that proves my Oppinions wrong. But this is yet to happen.
Originally posted by barbarossa
But I Do Have a leg to stand on. Simply saying I do not, does not make it so.And yes, I do hate it. And no, You can't say anything to change this. The only thing that will, is me hearing something that proves my Oppinions wrong. But this is yet to happen.
and what would that leg be? the factually bad lyrics or the factually bad music? or would it be that you just dont like it?
because if you just dont like it, you cant and shouldnt just say it's a terrible genre.
Originally posted by barbarossa
The factually bad lyrics and singing style, which tends to make it bad music. That is my leg.
It's not factually bad, nor are the lyrics factually bad. You think they are, others think they are not. Taste and preference are subjective, so if that's your leg then you honestly haven't got one to stand on.
All you've seemed to do in this thread is make sweeping and often misinformed generalisations.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not factually bad, nor are the lyrics factually bad. You think they are, others think they are not. Taste and preference are subjective, so if that's your leg then you honestly haven't got one to stand on.All you've seemed to do in this thread is make sweeping and often misinformed generalisations.
-AC
Generalisations? Yes, when I hear over fifteen examples of a Genre, and they all have the same pitfalls, I am of coarse, going to Stereotype the rest. As I have said, multiple times to you two. Show me something different, and there is a chance of me changing my opinion. In the meantime, find something better to do than attempting to change my mind with words. Just telling that there are good examples of a style of music, will do absolutely nothing. Prove that there is good in something that I have seen only bad. If you cannot do this, this conversation was for nothing. But to prove that you two are just another couple of people, out to find an argument.
Originally posted by Df02
thanks for, in one post, making me realise i should never have paid attention to your opinion, ever.
Thank you for one of the most pointless examples of poor English I've ever seen. If you intend on adressing me in a post, at least make that post worth the time and Energy I will commit to reading it.
Originally posted by barbarossa
Generalisations? Yes, when I hear over fifteen examples of a Genre, and they all have the same pitfalls, I am of coarse, going to Stereotype the rest. As I have said, multiple times to you two. Show me something different, and there is a chance of me changing my opinion. In the meantime, find something better to do than attempting to change my mind with words. Just telling that there are good examples of a style of music, will do absolutely nothing. [B]Prove that there is good in something that I have seen only bad. If you cannot do this, this conversation was for nothing. But to prove that you two are just another couple of people, out to find an argument.[/b]
Listen to yourself, it's pathetic.
I can't prove to you that music I like, or that Df02 likes, is good. Nobody can prove that music is "good" or better than another kind, purely based on preference. I can sit here and say "The Misfits make shit music", and you can't prove me wrong, because taste is always opinion, there's no objectivity to subjectivity, and that's exactly what your opinion of this kind of music is. It's just that; your opinion.
I'm not here trying to change your opinion, I don't even agree with Df02 on a lot of his thoughts on said genre, but you made the pathetic claim of it being factually bad, which is factually wrong. Bad to you? Yes. To Df02? No.
If you believe you can prove to someone what is and isn't good, from a subjective level, then you really need to rethink things. You can't prove that it's all bad any more than Df02 can prove it's all good.
Originally posted by barbarossa
Thank [b]you for one of the most pointless examples of poor English I've ever seen. If you intend on adressing me in a post, at least make that post worth the time and Energy I will commit to reading it. [/B]
I swear you are the one who capitalises random words in the middle of a paragraph; a main cardinal sin of grammar. Why is "energy" capitalised? By grammatical standards, what he said isn't as bad as some of the things that pop up in your posts.
Yet, how relevant is all this? Not relevant at all, so why bring it up? I've got nothing against you, but throwing stones in glass houses isn't usually a good idea.
-AC
Originally posted by barbarossa
Thank [b]you for one of the most pointless examples of poor English I've ever seen. If you intend on adressing me in a post, at least make that post worth the time and Energy I will commit to reading it. [/B]
there was nothing wrong with the English in my post. except possibly that i didnt capitalise the first letter of the sentence, but then you are in no position to quibble about capitalisation.
Thank you for one of the most pointless examples of poor English I've ever seen. If you intend on adressing me in a post, at least make that post worth the time and Energy I will commit to reading it.
said the person who cant spell addressing correctly and also capitalises energy for no apparent reason
Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
let's face it, emo only works right now because girls have some odd fetish for whiny voices which will soon tide over for true talent
but it's turning into more image based than anything to do with music...you see hordes of emo types walking the streets yet you ask them what they listen to and they wouldn't know an emo band if it smacked them in the face...
which i find totally bizarre