God is greater

Originally posted by Alliance
I dont understand this permenatn distancing between western'eastern faiths.

It isn't a distancing. It is a label given to distinguish between the philosophical differences between the belief systems. Eastern religions typically have a more internal locus of religious control while Western religions typically have a more external locus of religious control.

Problems arise because many people view their self worth by comparison to others. Thus, if another has a differing view it should be lower than one's own view. As such it is not the appropriate view, and should not be held. Given this people decide that the other view is a threat to their view and must remove it. The more unique an individual believes himself and his views to be the more risk of that individual becoming unstable in the community.

Originally posted by Regret
...The more unique an individual believes himself and his views to be the more risk of that individual becoming unstable in the community.

I agreed with you until that last sentence. Unique view does not always = unstable. This maybe the fear of the un-unique people, but it is often untrue.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I agreed with you until that last sentence. Unique view does not always = unstable. This maybe the fear of the un-unique people, but it is often untrue.

My opinion is that a person can go one of two ways. And each individual lies on the bell curve as to how far he goes. Either he moves towards good or he moves toward evil.

The extreme ends often produce men capable of greatness. They grow and become great men in history or villains in history (eg Tenzin Gyatso, Christ, Washington, Hitler, Siddhârtha Gautama, Marx, etc.)

That is what I meant by risk. Uniqueness often drives people to strong ideals that, when learned by others not as understanding of the concept or in the ideals themselves, are intolerant of other views.

Originally posted by Regret
My opinion is that a person can go one of two ways. And each individual lies on the bell curve as to how far he goes. Either he moves towards good or he moves toward evil.

The extreme ends often produce men capable of greatness. They grow and become great men in history or villains in history (eg Tenzin Gyatso, Christ, Washington, Hitler, Siddhârtha Gautama, Marx, etc.)

That is what I meant by risk. Uniqueness often drives people to strong ideals that, when learned by others not as understanding of the concept or in the ideals themselves, are intolerant of other views.

Ok I understand now and agree. 😎

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Originally posted by Regret
It isn't a distancing. It is a label given to distinguish between the philosophical differences between the belief systems. Eastern religions typically have a more internal locus of religious control while Western religions typically have a more external locus of religious control.

Problems arise because many people view their self worth by comparison to others. Thus, if another has a differing view it should be lower than one's own view. As such it is not the appropriate view, and should not be held. Given this people decide that the other view is a threat to their view and must remove it. The more unique an individual believes himself and his views to be the more risk of that individual becoming unstable in the community.

Maybe, but it still doesnt work. Trancendentalism is a Western religious philosophy, it changed a lot of religoin in the US. BOth have east and west have made invaluable contributions to the other, there is no need for this segregation.

Originally posted by Alliance
Maybe, but it still doesnt work. Trancendentalism is a Western religious philosophy, it changed a lot of religoin in the US. BOth have east and west have made invaluable contributions to the other, there is no need for this segregation.

It isn't segregation except for in the eyes of the narrow minded. More open minded individuals see the good and the benefit found in other religions. It isn't the all religious individuals that see this segregation, it is the poor ones.

It is a sad individual who does not recognize good where ever it is found.

Transcendentalism originated with the eastern religions. It came into being by a misguided understanding of various eastern religious forms of meditation and the purpose of these meditations. It exists in the western world, but it follows the Eastern religious manner of philosophy, not a Western religious philosophy.

You misunderstand me.

All religions have their good points. Its stupid to lop them into categories and make statemtnes like "oh, well thats eastern so it has no value here in the west.

The whole eastern/western thing is arbitrary.

My point with trancednendatlism is that is is very similar to "eastern" religious philosophy, but it is itself a western movement. The Idea os an Islamic state is a very "western" idea, but has great power in the "eastern" nations.

The words "eastern" and "western" have no valid religous application. People hsoudl relaize that religions have global influnences and religious philosophies are gifts to all.

Originally posted by Alliance
You misunderstand me.

All religions have their good points. Its stupid to lop them into categories and make statements like "oh, well thats eastern so it has no value here in the west.

The whole eastern/western thing is arbitrary.

My point with trancednendatlism is that is is very similar to "eastern" religious philosophy, but it is itself a western movement. The Idea os an Islamic state is a very "western" idea, but has great power in the "eastern" nations.

The words "eastern" and "western" have no valid religous application. People hsoudl relaize that religions have global influnences and religious philosophies are gifts to all.

Islam is not an eastern religion. Eastern religions are Jains, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Taoists, Confucianists (whatever their called), Shinto, etc.

Islam is a western religion. Western religions include Zoroastrians, Jews, Muslims and Christians.

"All religions have their good points. Its stupid to lop them into categories and make statements like "oh, well thats eastern so it has no value here in the west."

Wholly agreed.

The categories allow for a better understanding as to the views of a religious person if one knows where his philosophy of religion originates. It also helps with a better understanding as to derivative religions and sects and the relationships that they have. Some might claim it is stupid to lump dogs into categories. I would, because I plain don't care, but then to someone who does it does have meaning. It does not separate, it merely describes.

Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
mahattsava, do you really come from the same place as i do?

and i'm guessing not just Christians.

Yes, MABUHAY!!!! wavey