Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Slightly off topic: It has been a long time since I watched South Park, I heard that the voice of Chef left after all that Scientology who-ha. Is this true?
Yeah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Hayes
Originally posted by lord xyz
Dude, it was a joke. 😐
I thought so too first. But apparently Comedy Central actually censored it.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Slightly off topic: It has been a long time since I watched South Park, I heard that the voice of Chef left after all that Scientology who-ha. Is this true?
They made an episode afterwards that implied scientology messed with Isaac Hayes mind by using chef as his representation and chef joining the super adventure club (dedicated to molesting boys aroudn the world). It was hilarious and an excellent metaphor to the that situation.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Freedom of speech is a good thing, but only for the point when it offends somebody. Try to doubt holocaust and you'll gonna end up in jail, because it offends relatives of people that died, same here. It may offend people's beliefes.
Then its not freedom of speech. If you start dsitinguishing wrong from right then everything has to be accounted for, I understand that you look at a majority of people who are offended, but if your going to respect them then you have to respect everone else who is offended by whatever.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Freedom of speech is a good thing, but only for the point when it offends somebody. Try to doubt holocaust and you'll gonna end up in jail, because it offends relatives of people that died, same here. It may offend people's beliefes.
That sounds like fascism buddy.
There's a big distinction between protected speech and hate speech. You can say anything you want on tv as long as it doesn't incite people to panic or violence. Or use words like *******, taint, ****, **** ****, mother****er, cock, cockersucker, pussy, dick, dickface, dickhole, or any such variants on most channels.
or in translation (relative to phoenetics)-Yibbat, trahatsah, hooiy, piezdets, sukha, i ves votetet maht nelyzah arraht po televizaroo, ponehl?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Freedom of speech is a good thing, but only for the point when it offends somebody. Try to doubt holocaust and you'll gonna end up in jail, because it offends relatives of people that died, same here. It may offend people's beliefes.
Well, I am offended by people saying they like coffee, will that get banned as well?
Originally posted by gordomuchacho
Then its not freedom of speech. If you start dsitinguishing wrong from right then everything has to be accounted for, I understand that you look at a majority of people who are offended, but if your going to respect them then you have to respect everone else who is offended by whatever.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
That sounds like fascism buddy.There's a big distinction between protected speech and hate speech. You can say anything you want on tv as long as it doesn't incite people to panic or violence. Or use words like *******, taint, ****, **** ****, mother****er, cock, cockersucker, pussy, dick, dickface, dickhole, or any such variants on most channels.
or in translation (relative to phoenetics)-Yibbat, trahatsah, hooiy, piezdets, sukha, i ves votetet maht nelyzah arraht po televizaroo, ponehl?
Then how about Da vinci code?
When they made a movie christians in the whole world started protesting, what's the differance?
I actually like South park and don't care much if they laugh at all religions because it's just a cartoon but when they make caricatures of prophet in newspappers it's a differant thing.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Then how about Da vinci code?
When they made a movie christians in the whole world started protesting, what's the differance?
I actually like South park and don't care much if they laugh at all religions because it's just a cartoon but when they make caricatures of prophet in newspappers it's a differant thing.
There was nothign wrong with the da vinci code, its a story and people who are offended don't have to see the movie or read the book. Your right there is no difference and I think the christians protestign it are proabbaly more ridiculous than the cartoon image of mohammad because the story isn't even factual. This coming from a catholic which the da vinci code basically ridiculed the church and said there was a big cover up. They weren't trying to make fun of mohammad, just depict him which in Islam is not allowed. The difference between making fun of anyone else and muslims is that everyoen else doesn't have massive riots. They make fun of homosexuals often with the character mr. slave and had homosexuals started rioting in the streets about that, do you thinkt hen it would be wrong to show it on tv. Obviously comedy central felt that way. Since thousands of muslims protested that guy in denmark, it means it isn't right to show moahammad. Its hypocrisy at its best.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am offended by peopel that apologize. And by people that use sarcasm. And by people that use the word "night". Dude, where should it stop?
So first you want me to apologize and then you get offend?
Gues what, Muslims never asked newspappers to make Muhammad's caricatures.
So if someone desides to doubt holocaust it is a crime and freedom of speech doesn't work here. but making fun of people's beliefes is just fine?
Originally posted by Sam Z
So first you want me to apologize and then you get offend?
Gues what, Muslims never asked newspappers to make Muhammad's caricatures.
So if someone desides to doubt holocaust it is a crime and freedom of speech doesn't work here. but making fun of people's beliefes is just fine?
Well, both should be allowed. Just because someone gets offended doesn't mean it should be banned. That's why it's called Freedom of Speech and not "You can say what you want as log as you offend NO ONE"...you know?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, both should be allowed. Just because someone gets offended doesn't mean it should be banned. That's why it's called Freedom of Speech and not "You can say what you want as log as you offend NO ONE"...you know?
So if you call somebody "b!tch", "f!@ker", "c!@ksucker" etc it is just fine because you have freedom of speech?
If somebody calls you so, you have right to sew him for morally insulting you. There is no differance between insulting you or your beliefes.
Originally posted by Sam Z
So if you call somebody "b!tch", "f!@ker", "c!@ksucker" etc it is just fine because you have freedom of speech?
If somebody calls you so, you have right to sew him for morally insulting you. There is no differance between insulting you or your beliefes.
Really, where would you stop it? And how?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Really, where would you stop it? And how?
Stop it? If someone called me so i would do as Quiero Mota suggested.
But it still means that freedom of speech in society works only to the point where it offends somebody because when it does offends you, you have a right to sew for it.
Or you support idea of freedom of speech nomatter of what?
Originally posted by Sam ZBut almost all thing offend somebody in some way.
Stop it? If someone called me so i would do as Quiero Mota suggested.
But it still means that freedom of speech in society works only to the point where it offends somebody because when it does offends you, you have a right to sew for it.
Or you support idea of freedom of speech nomatter of what?
I support the idea of freedom of speech no matter what. Of course ordering harm to others is not covered by that.