Originally posted by Alliance
But if some stnaces are contradictory...then what?
In any event, we have no real authority to state that one system is more contradictory than another. Moreover, we are only human with limited understanding about the universe anyway, so how can we really say with absolute surety that something is indeed contradictory or even what "contradiction" amounts to ultimately int the face of the mystery of the ultimate universal truth?
In short, if we criticise and judge other people and their views, while feeling that we are right and they wrong, we create negative karma and thereby suffer the negative consequences.
We are only human though, and all of us judge at some point or another, but we must strive towards enlightenment.
* according to the Bible, they are miracles performed by God [through leaders and prophets] in the Old Testament, and Christ [and His apostles] in the New Testament...
* yes, these miracles are somewhat effective because it brought the faith to people and believed in God... but some people, despite of all things seen, still do not believe...
* for example: the Israelites, the whole sea was split in front of their eyes, Moses went away for 40 days & nights, and the people turned away from God and worshipped a gold calf...
* in the New Testament, Christ even given five thousand men [besides women & children] loaves and fishes to eat through a miracle... the second instance, there were four thousand men...
* but still, not all people believed... however, God still wants everyone to be saved...
"This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth."
I Timothy 2:3-4
* so even without miracles, we must acquire faith and strive to perfection...
"Wherefore, leaving the word of the beginning of the Christ, let us go on to what belongs to full growth, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and faith in God,
Of the doctrine of washings, and of imposition of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment;"
Hebrews 6:1-2
* so by acquiring faith in God, add these:
"And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness love.
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ."
II Peter 1:5-8
* faith, love and hope...
"But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love.
I Corinthians 13:13
* hope in what?
"While we wait for the blessed hope - the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,"
Titus 2:13
* okay? 😉
MAN christians are hopeless! if your gonna believe in the bible at least get the guts to say that science and logic is wrong! instead of illlogically and completely unsuccesfully trying to meld them together to show christianity's superiority to logic and science. you cant have both. either your logical or a christian. christianity is NOT logical/reasonable and reason does not support christianity. FACT!
Originally posted by leonheartmm
MAN christians are hopeless! if your gonna believe in the bible at least get the guts to say that science and logic is wrong! instead of illlogically and completely unsuccesfully trying to meld them together to show christianity's superiority to logic and science. you cant have both. either your logical or a christian. christianity is NOT logical/reasonable and reason does not support christianity. FACT!
Originally posted by Storm
Atheists are not necessarily more rational than theists, though we find some arguing that they would be or just be plain better than theists. That, however, is not only bigotry, but is in fact an example of how atheists can fail to be rational and adopt just the sort of ridiculous beliefs which they find contemptible in others.
Athiests are victim to many of the same rational problems as theinsts are, though imo on a much smaller level. The main problem lies on the fact that you make a claim that there is no god, while to amny people that seems absurd because they were raised on one.
Athiest are not better. You don't get a leg up on morality because you are a part of a group, you get it becuase of your character.
Its perfectly rational to have a beef with hateful religous zealots...but it ok to have a beef with any sort of hateful zealots....even inf they're atheist. You don't have a monoply on reason, pluralistic opinons should be present.