Originally posted by Alliance
Fine, then stop lobbing personal attacks at me and saying I wont debate. Or that you just find my views so hilarious...even though most intellectuals agree with them (in reference to Natural selection).
I could care less what most intellectuals think, the fact is Evolution is pretty much driven by random information adding mutations (Which have never been proven ) which form traits that are blindly selected by natural selection. and how do you explain the origin of life "Abiogenesis", I already posted the "InformationTheory" "CSI" etc. Quote them if you want I'm not debating someone who declares things false without any pretext but popular opinion.
And I haven't said one personal attack against you, you on the other hand has called me insane.
Originally posted by Alliance
Thats funny. Tell me. Whats the difference between Natural Selection and Evolutoin?
Natural selection is process where favorable traits are choosen and unfavorable ones are not, at the most natural selection can change the ratio of traits in a population. it cannot create new traits because all it does is blindly select favorable traits.
Evolution is the belief that natural selection combined with random mutations, can generate new species with increased function. problem is it fails to explain the origin of traits. it claims random mutations create traits, which has never been observed.
That is somewhat correct.
Evolution is the base concept. Its the oberserved change in population. The sum of the heritable changes in a population spread over many generations. Evolution is not speciation. Its a very simple and basic concept.
Natural selection is Darwin's Theory, which in its modern form, deals with favorable traits, the mechanism for inheritance (DNA), random mutation, speciation, and attempts to explain evolutoin.
These are the scientific defintions.
Originally posted by Alliance
That is somewhat correct.Evolution is the base concept. Its the oberserved change in population. The sum of the heritable changes in a population spread over many generations. Evolution is not speciation. Its a very simple and basic concept.
Natural selection is Darwin's Theory, which in its modern form, deals with favorable traits, the mechanism for inheritance (DNA), random mutation, speciation, and attempts to explain evolutoin.
These are the scientific defintions.
the definition of natural selection is lacking, it doesn't describe what natural selection does except act as a mechanism to support evolution.
Originally posted by Alliance
😆 yes it certianly is.I will research a better one.
But the fact that its the mechanism to explain is the main point.
I don't get how it explains your main point, let's say natural selection favors a hramful mutated trait (which it has) how does that help the species survival? combine that with the amount of harmful mutations (Which is alot) than you have a problem.
If that mutation is really a harmful trait - that is if the benefits of that trait is spectacularly minimal - then evolution would discard it in time and experiment with something else (might even try something that is equally absurd or harmful). Evolution is not static and has no end product in mind for any species.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I don't get how it explains your main point, let's say natural selection favors a hramful mutated trait (which it has) how does that help the species survival? combine that with the amount of harmful mutations (Which is alot) than you have a problem.
A perfect example is the sicke-cell trait. Its great for fighting malaria, but if you get the homo-negative, you're pretty much screwed.
The thing is evolution is shifts in the freqency of alleles. Natural selection says that those with the sickle cell trait are less likely to die form malaria, increasing the frequency of that allele in the population. It achieve a balance within the context of teh environment until the einvironment is further disturbed. Natural seleciton would predict that as long as the births exceed the deaths, or are equal too, the population survives.
If everyone was het for the sickle cell trait. youd predict that 1/4 owuld be homo-dom. 1/2 would be advantageous, and 1/4 woudl be homo-neg or screwed. So you can see how a harmful trait can be successfulyl selected for.