Wonder woman vs. Supergirl

Originally posted by UniOmni
WW is significantly below Supermans everyday levels, so for Kara to be above his everyday levels, means that she's beyond Diana by a more than significant margin.
So the end result is, Supergirl >>Superman normal, and Superman normal>> Diana, so if my math is correct, Supergirl >>>>Diana as a whole.

WW is significantly more skilled than Supergirl. And going all out she's likely stronger. If they both go all out Supergirl gets her ass handed to her.

Woman Woman no doubt..

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You've got the strangest idea of significant. You think there's no significant difference between Namor and WW yet there's a huge insurmountable difference between Superman's normal strength and WW's.

WW is significantly more skilled than Supergirl. And going all out she's likely stronger. If they both go all out Supergirl gets her ass handed to her.

I can see her skill and experience making her the victor.
But i can't see her winning, due to better stats.

DC has made it abundantly clear, that Kryptonians as a race, >>>damn near everyone else.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You've got the strangest idea of significant. You think there's no significant difference between Namor and WW yet there's a huge insurmountable difference between Superman's normal strength and WW's.

WW is significantly more skilled than Supergirl. And going all out she's likely stronger. If they both go all out Supergirl gets her ass handed to her.

Namor and WW?

Originally posted by UniOmni
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I can see her skill and experience making her the victor.
But i can't see her winning, due to better stats.

DC has made it abundantly clear, that Kryptonians as a race, >>>damn near everyone else.

True but, I've never truly seen Diana go all out as we've seen Superman so many times. If anything I will say this they do portray Diana as someone with extremely high endurance and defense. She gets hit so often but, in all the fights I've seen them in the writer has always favored Superman. There are way too many occasions where it seems like she's holding back or at least not trying to use her skills.😬

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Namor and WW?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Apparently there are three tiers of class 100, a top tier with Superman and Captain Marvel, a mid-tier with Supergirl and Martian Manhunter, and a bottom tier where Wonder Woman sits with Namor.... 😐

Wonder Woman takes this

Originally posted by The Pict
Wonder Woman takes this

Originally posted by Juntai
In pure physical attributes, Supes is in a league of his own... once he kicks it up a notch, he very quickly fades the competition.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Apparently there are three tiers of class 100, a top tier with Superman and Captain Marvel, a mid-tier with Supergirl and Martian Manhunter, and a bottom tier where Wonder Woman sits with Namor.... 😐

Um no she's leagues above Namor isn't he low class 100 she's top tier.😕

The weird thing to me is for regular humans a woman with extensive h2h training vs a man who's a slugger the woman would most likely seem the victor but, with Superman and WW who are relatively comparable in every aspect. With the exception he has offensive powers but, she has magical weaponry(that is also one of his greatest weaknesses) that makes up for it loses so easily?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you think that Supergirl, who apparently is pretty much going all out all the time, is stronger than if WW, who knows self-restraint, goes all out though?

Also didn't WW handle an all out Supergirl that was ranked higher than Superman?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you think that Supergirl, who apparently is pretty much going all out all the time, is stronger than if WW, who knows self-restraint, goes all out though?

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Also didn't WW handle an all out Supergirl that was ranked higher than Superman?

Originally posted by Juntai
She's up there, but Supergirl would never beat WW due to martial tactics, martial skill, and experience...oh, and because WW is part of the Trinity.

With that being said isn't that the true reason WW doesn't hand Superman his ass when he's easily outclassed in skills and with her weapons? Unlike him she's had her powers since birth and has trained and tempered them so does/is she more likely or better at holding back?

Originally posted by Juntai
No, she's not ranked higher than Superman, never was.

I know that but, around that time everyone thought she was. Before it came to the conclusion that Superman just holds back. Which to me is just a cheap way to amp Superman's levels.😬

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Um no she's leagues above Namor isn't he low class 100 she's top tier.😕

Originally posted by LethalFemme
I know that but, around that time everyone thought she was. Before it came to the conclusion that Superman just holds back. Which to me is just a cheap way to amp Superman's levels.😬

Originally posted by LethalFemme
With that being said isn't that the true reason WW doesn't hand Superman his ass when he's easily outclassed in skills and with her weapons? Unlike him she's had her powers since birth and has trained and tempered them so does/is she more likely or better at holding back?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hey don't ask me... I didn't class them like that... 😬

Whoever did has a bad misconception. To say WW is far below Superman is kinda an average response(especially from the guys 🙄 ) but, how Martian Manhunter? And if WW is the female version of Superman doesn't that make her equal to a full grown Supergirl?

Originally posted by Juntai
But he does hold back on Earth... She should have even known better. She never would have stood a chance against Darkseid, or half of the threats Supes has mopped up in random arcs.

Superman shouldn't have stood up to people he's mopped up in random arcs. How many times do we clearly see people get around Superman and forget they can manhandle him? Especially those that have magic?

Originally posted by Juntai
The reason WW doesn't just hand Supes his ass is because she can't.

In some aspects shouldn't he be barely beating her? Her skills are supposed to count for something but, somehow are left out when ever she fights him. I have seen her use some tech but, it's obvious she doesn't go all out when he is. Her magical weapons cut through him like butter.😬

I was the one who said that i'd put her and Namor closer in power. And Namor when wet, is a true bruiser. Mid class 100s at least.

WW would beat the tar outta him all the same, due to her weapons and speed advantage. But i don't believe she's really much if at all stronger than him.

He's matched Thor while in the water decently, broken the bands of Cytorrak and has always beaten the Hulk.
One shotted BRB, who's Thors relative equal, and is just a bruiser in the water.
Imo, there is no shame in being on the same level as Namor.
He's less popular, so his feats aren't as widespread or known.

And yeah, i do believe that there are tiers within classes.

Low, middle and Elite.

WW is weaker than Superman, and always has been. Comparable, but definitely weaker.
Supergirl operates at a higher level than normal Superman, due to the not holding back thing.
WW operates lower than a normal superman, even though she too holds back.
Not holding back, i can't see her stats being better than Karas.
Her skill and exp grants her the win.
And Jun has it right.

WW will always be the numero uno lady on Earth, though Supergirl as the female counterpart to Superman, should be a bit stronger.
At least, should imo.

And yeah, i did put her under Martian Manhunter.

On average she's higher, but when he's amped, he is a bit above her.

And i like WW more than Supergirl.